Comments and Questions that should be banned

poopgiggle · Jan 18, 2013

Brent Akin said:
The masses that agree with gun control may be misguided, but I have a hard time believing that all the politicians truly think that what they are going after is going to help anything.

I've given up on trying to guess what politicians actually believe and just look at what will get them votes. It's a more accurate barometer.

Dux-R-Us · Jan 18, 2013

Thumper said:
Taking a few of my words without considering and sharing the context of my entire post seems to be a bit misleading and intellectually dishonest. My entire post is below...

I never said Christians = gun owners so I'm not sure I clearly understand that comment. I am a Christian but will always support and respect other faiths (even those with none) and other points of view. Comparing God to Mother Goose doesn't seem helpful to me but again, I support your right to express your opinion. I am an educated Christian man who is passionate about his beliefs but am always respectful and open to other points of view. I am not angry or ingnorant... or intolerant... and I will not allow myself to be labeled as such.

My original post was about my concerns regarding a clear and present danger... and what I consider to be a dire threat to our liberty... and to our freedoms. It's not just about gun control or the 2nd amendement. Its not just about free speech or freedom of religion... it's about our way of life... and the very foundational ideas on which this country was founded. In my opinion (and it is only my opinion), many of these freedoms are under attack. Freedom of speech is being limited. God and Christianity are under attack as well. Other freedoms such as the right to bear arms... are being questioned and/or eroded. What's happening now is the culmination of decades of work... a 'progressive' re-interpretation of the constitution... and a deliberate and well orchestrated attempt to rewrite or redefine or repackage our liberty into something that looks quite different than what our founding fathers intended. The constitution is certainly not perfect but it establishes a system that protects our basic rights and freedoms and ensures against tyranny and that power and liberty rest solely with the people... not the government.

Good post. Spot on.

Thumper, we are not so different as you may originally have thought.

Today, everything is being questioned and evaluated as it should be. Yesterday, everything was quesitoned. Tomorrow, everything will be questioned. If not, then there is no hope for human kind to take on and solve the problems of Life. Without constant evaluation and meditation, there can be no growth of the mind, spirit, or body.

Many things I post are intended to stimulate critical thinking and to get people to express themselves. I do not intend to make personal attacks, however, sometimes the reader may feel I do. The reaction to written words are the responsibility of the reader, not the author.

This country was founded by men, not God. Men are fallable, God is not. The men who founded this country were briliantly minded and daring to create a system that was not static and dead, but dynamic and living. They built in the ability to enact change at the will of its citizens. If this were not true, the US would not have survived 20 years, let alone 236 years.

The Bible (which is a record of God's revelation of Himself to man) is a living document, even though much of it was written more than 2000 years ago. The US Constitution is a living document as well. Both writings have been and will continue to be read, studied, and evaluated by men. If men ever men quit these processes, then both the Bible and the Constitution will be no longer be living documents. They will be the dead words of dead men and Hope will vanish.

I leave you and all people with the banner words of Pope John Paul II: "Be not afraid."

Respectfully,

Kevin

PS, now that I am finally recovered from the influenza, I am leaving the house to enjoy this warm winter day and the freedom to go as I choose, speak as I choose, worship as I choose, and to shoot my rifles.

PDN · Jan 18, 2013

Dux-R-Us said:
Good post. Spot on.

Thumper, we are not so different as you may originally have thought.

Today, everything is being questioned and evaluated as it should be. Yesterday, everything was quesitoned. Tomorrow, everything will be questioned. If not, then there is no hope for human kind to take on and solve the problems of Life. Without constant evaluation and meditation, there can be no growth of the mind, spirit, or body.

Many things I post are intended to stimulate critical thinking and to get people to express themselves. I do not intend to make personal attacks, however, sometimes the reader may feel I do. The reaction to written words are the responsibility of the reader, not the author.

This country was founded by men, not God. Men are fallable, God is not. The men who founded this country were briliantly minded and daring to create a system that was not static and dead, but dynamic and living. They built in the ability to enact change at the will of its citizens. If this were not true, the US would not have survived 20 years, let alone 236 years.

The Bible (which is a record of God's revelation of Himself to man) is a living document, even though much of it was written more than 2000 years ago. The US Constitution is a living document as well. Both writings have been and will continue to be read, studied, and evaluated by men. If men ever men quit these processes, then both the Bible and the Constitution will be no longer be living documents. They will be the dead words of dead men and Hope will vanish.

I leave you and all people with the banner words of Pope John Paul II: "Be not afraid."

Respectfully,

Kevin

PS, now that I am finally recovered from the influenza, I am leaving the house to enjoy this warm winter day and the freedom to go as I choose, speak as I choose, worship as I choose, and to shoot my rifles.

Thanks Kevin for your reply. I am always interested in critical thinking and a good healthy debate. Different perspectives are always more intriguing than mirrored thoughts. Its easy to jump to false conclusions reading an email or a written word. I would probably enjoy continuing this discussion over a cup of coffee sometime. That might be an interesting idea to pursue for our BS members... Gathering once a week or once per month for breakfast and a healthy discussion of issues, current events, etc. might be fun.

I'm glad you're feeling better and able to enjoy this beautiful day.

-Paul

"The price of freedom is eternal vigilance" - Thomas Jefferson

Burk Cornelius · Jan 29, 2013

Another phrase or term that is really starting to bother me is "illegal gun". For those of us who live in the [semi] free State of Oklahoma, there really is no such thing (except maybe undocumented Class III weapons).

If Sen. Coburn and Sen. Shumer (yes D-NY Shumer) get their way, that would soon change.

Would anyone complain if we had to register pencils or typewriters? i.e. "That op-ed article was written on an illegal keyboard"

Matt1911 · Jan 29, 2013

Class III weapons aren't illegal either. Just find one made before 1986 and do the proper paperwork after putting a 2nd mortgage on your house.

poopgiggle · Jan 29, 2013

The preferred nomenclature is "undocumented gun."

Burk Cornelius · Jan 29, 2013

Matt Rigsby said:
Class III weapons aren't illegal either. Just find one made before 1986 and do the proper paperwork after putting a 2nd mortgage on your house.

poopgiggle said:
The preferred nomenclature is "undocumented gun."

Burk Cornelius said:
Another phrase or term that is really starting to bother me is "illegal gun". For those of us who live in the [semi] free State of Oklahoma, there really is no such thing (except maybe undocumented Class III weapons).

Fixed it