Coated Bullets?

Josh Smash · Jun 2, 2016

Looking to make the switch to coated bullets. Any insight is much appreciated.

Would there be any issues/disadvantages using them in Glock Barrel?

I have read the you need to use a taper crimp as to not cut through the coating. Can you get away with a light roll crimp?

Does anyone have any experience with the brand Precision Bullets? http://precisionbullets.com/

Feegee · Jun 2, 2016

BBI- Black bullets international is the only way to go! They work in anything. I shoot 9mm Major and have pretty much no crimp.

dennishoddy · Jun 2, 2016

Pistol rounds only taper crimp. Don't roll crimp unless your shooting magnum loads.

Ryan Groves · Jun 2, 2016

Josh Smash said:
Looking to make the switch to coated bullets. Any insight is much appreciated.

Would there be any issues/disadvantages using them in Glock Barrel?

I have read the you need to use a taper crimp as to not cut through the coating. Can you get away with a light roll crimp?

Does anyone have any experience with the brand Precision Bullets? http://precisionbullets.com/

I have used ~5k Precision Bullets and like them a lot. Haven't found better prices unless its from a guy on here unloading personal inventory. I used them in a stock Glock barrel for awhile before someone gave me a Lone Wolf barrel. I did a lot of research on using moly-coated bullets in a stock Glock barrel, and as with anything internet related you could find 'experts' advocated for and against it. I say run them and just keep the barrel clean but that's just my 'non-expert' 2 cents.

Josh Smash · Jun 2, 2016

dennishoddy said:
Pistol rounds only taper crimp. Don't roll crimp unless your shooting magnum loads.

Darn, don't have tamper crimp dies. Thanks for the info.

Feegee Matlock said:
BBI- Black bullets international is the only way to go! They work in anything. I shoot 9mm Major and have pretty much no crimp.

These are the ones you showed me the other week. Not sure why I looked over these. Thanks

Josh Smash · Jun 2, 2016

Ryan Groves said:
I have used ~5k Precision Bullets and like them a lot. Haven't found better prices unless its from a guy on here unloading personal inventory. I used them in a stock Glock barrel for awhile before someone gave me a Lone Wolf barrel. I did a lot of research on using moly-coated bullets in a stock Glock barrel, and as with anything internet related you could find 'experts' advocated for and against it. I say run them and just keep the barrel clean but that's just my 'non-expert' 2 cents.

Thanks for the input on the Precision Bullets. Did you do anything special/extra to clean your stock barrel?

Ryan Groves · Jun 2, 2016

Josh Smash said:
Thanks for the input on the Precision Bullets. Did you do anything special/extra to clean your stock barrel?

Not really, just run an extra soaked patch of hoppes and let it sit for a few minutes to loosen things up then alternate brush/patch.

As for crimp, I use Lee dies and you can get the Lee crimp die for $15-20 by itself. I just use the slightest bit of crimp where it barely takes the edge off.

poopgiggle · Jun 2, 2016

Are you loading for revo? Who roll crimps rounds that headspace on the case mouth?

IDK about Precision but I've tried a bunch of different brands and they all work pretty much the same. Get whatever is cheapest.

Josh Smash · Jun 2, 2016

Ryan Groves said:
Not really, just run an extra soaked patch of hoppes and let it sit for a few minutes to loosen things up then alternate brush/patch.

As for crimp, I use Lee dies and you can get the Lee crimp die for $15-20 by itself. I just use the slightest bit of crimp where it barely takes the edge off.

Sounds simple to me. Even after $20 for a new die, the cost will still be lower than my current setup.

Josh Smash · Jun 2, 2016

dr poopgiggle said:
Are you loading for revo? Who roll crimps rounds that headspace on the case mouth?

IDK about Precision but I've tried a bunch of different brands and they all work pretty much the same. Get whatever is cheapest.

Nope, Glock 19. I wouldn't be surprised if I'm confusing one thing for another. I'm still learning and trying to branch out.

From what I've looked at so far, Precisions are the cheapest and BBI are a very close second. Thanks for the input.

DC4OU · Jun 3, 2016

Look at Bayou Bullets or ACME bullets too. BBI may also be great, I just don't have any experience with them. You can shoot them all day in a Glock. I have shot thousands through Glocks with no problems at all.

poopgiggle · Jun 3, 2016

Cheapest I've found is Blue Bullets with the Triangle Tactical discount code

Gramps · Jun 3, 2016

And that code is what Doc?

jcameron996 · Jun 3, 2016

Josh Smash said:
Nope, Glock 19. I wouldn't be surprised if I'm confusing one thing for another. I'm still learning and trying to branch out.

From what I've looked at so far, Precisions are the cheapest and BBI are a very close second. Thanks for the input.

I don't know what dies you are using but any 9mm die should be a taper crimp die. That being said you still need a separate taper crimp die because with any coated bullet you need to seat and crimp in two separate steps. I started out using the Lee dies with the factory crimp, but was getting some swaging of the bullets with the carbide ring. I am currently running the Dillon dies loading black bullets with zero problems.

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poopgiggle · Jun 3, 2016

Scott C Taylor said:
And that code is what Doc?

TRIANGLE for 5% off.

I think Ben Stoeger has one too, not sure if it's for more than 5%.

Josh Smash · Jun 3, 2016

jcameron996 said:
I don't know what dies you are using but any 9mm die should be a taper crimp die. That being said you still need a separate taper crimp die because with any coated bullet you need to seat and crimp in two separate steps. I started out using the Lee dies with the factory crimp, but was getting some swaging of the bullets with the carbide ring. I am currently running the Dillon dies loading black bullets with zero problems.

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I am using hornady custom grade pistol dies. The SKU doesn't match there taper die set.

Professor · Jun 3, 2016

Josh Smash said:
I am using hornady custom grade pistol dies. The SKU doesn't match there taper die set.

My 2 cents and it may not be worth that. I prefer to not seat and crimp in the same die. Even more so for a coated or lead bullet. You are still pushing the bullet into place as it is crimping which can scrape the coating. Unless you have a 4 die set. You likely the seat and crimp is in the same die. Hornady makes both. One exception are Dillon dies which expand on the powder stage and not with the dies. The downside is adding another task on a single stage press. I was doing this on my turret before I bought a progressive, but there is more work for a true single stage. I also prefer the Lee factory crimp die on 9mm. 17.95 shipped with Amazon Prime. You can adjust a combo seat/crimp die so it will not crimp.

Link to Lee FC Die
http://www.amazon.com/Lee-Precision-Carbide-Factory-Crimp/dp/B000O7HCK0/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1464968601&sr=8-2&keywords=lee+factory+crimp+die

DD78 · Jun 3, 2016

I've used coated bullets when I was looking for something cheaper. In all honesty, coated saves me a few bucks per thousand over plated. The savings weren't great enough for me to continue buying coated so I just stick with plated. With both types of bullets, a slight taper crimp is all that is needed. You literally are only trying to remove the flare you put in the case. If you look at your crimp and it's made the diameter of the brass smaller than the rest of the brass case, that's way too much crimp.

Josh Smash · Jun 3, 2016

Rick Howell said:
My 2 cents and it may not be worth that. I prefer to not seat and crimp in the same die. Even more so for a coated or lead bullet. You are still pushing the bullet into place as it is crimping which can scrape the coating. Unless you have a 4 die set. You likely the seat and crimp is in the same die. Hornady makes both. One exception are Dillon dies which expand on the powder stage and not with the dies. The downside is adding another task on a single stage press. I was doing this on my turret before I bought a progressive, but there is more work for a true single stage. I also prefer the Lee factory crimp die on 9mm. 17.95 shipped with Amazon Prime. You can adjust a combo seat/crimp die so it will not crimp.
Link to Lee FC Diehttp://www.amazon.com/Lee-Precision-Carbide-Factory-Crimp/dp/B000O7HCK0/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1464968601&sr=8-2&keywords=lee+factory+crimp+die

I'm using a single stage now. I will probably end up buying a separate crimp die and add he extra step. Thanks for the advice.

DD78 said:
I've used coated bullets when I was looking for something cheaper. In all honesty, coated saves me a few bucks per thousand over plated. The savings weren't great enough for me to continue buying coated so I just stick with plated. With both types of bullets, a slight taper crimp is all that is needed. You literally are only trying to remove the flare you put in the case. If you look at your crimp and it's made the diameter of the brass smaller than the rest of the brass case, that's way too much crimp.

Buying bulk using the code above, thanks to Dr Poopgiggle, it looks like I would save $15-$20 per 1K compared to my current load.

22+1 · Jun 3, 2016

I reload with a dillion 550 and after testing plated, double plated and coated, it seems like the coated do as well or better than the plated. After shooting a few hundred rounds of bayou bullets, the barrel looks really clean.