w321shark
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Does anyone know the chemical composition of modern smokeless powder? Like the molecular structure of it. I'm planning on getting it tattooed on my leg
chemical composition of modern smokeless powder?
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11B3XCIB
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It'd be a little easier if you listed a few of your favorite types but I know they vary...like my beloved Titegroup has a high nitroglycerin content among other things and my Reloder10x has either a small amount or none...
ETA: my chemist wife says the smokeless powders are a mixture of compounds and will have numerous different structures within each powder. So you'd be getting half a dozen different molecular structures inked in a pattern.
ETA: my chemist wife says the smokeless powders are a mixture of compounds and will have numerous different structures within each powder. So you'd be getting half a dozen different molecular structures inked in a pattern.
w321shark
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I personally like unique but I would be open to anything simple you know. So what your saying is it couldn't just be a variation of a nitrocellulose molecule. It would be multiple linked into a nitrocellulose? I'm an electrical engineer so I really don't know anything about this. I Asked a chemical engineer I work with but he wasn't much help. Worst case scenario I could just get nitrocellulose since it's the base of all modern powders to my knowledge
11B3XCIB
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Look at this MSDS sheet for Hodgdon's spherical powders (Titegroup, Titewad, CFE 223, Longshot, etc)
http://www.hodgdon.com/PDF/MSDS%20Files ... 090111.pdf
There are well over a dozen ingredients, nitrocellulose and nitroglycerin being present. This is why the powder bottles say if ingested or absorbed through the skin a sudden loss of blood pressure can occur.
The fact that there are so many compounds rolled into the formula means there isn't just one molecular structure; nitroglycerin or nitrocellulose would be the more common components for propellants if you're interested in a molecular structure tattoo.
http://www.hodgdon.com/PDF/MSDS%20Files ... 090111.pdf
There are well over a dozen ingredients, nitrocellulose and nitroglycerin being present. This is why the powder bottles say if ingested or absorbed through the skin a sudden loss of blood pressure can occur.
The fact that there are so many compounds rolled into the formula means there isn't just one molecular structure; nitroglycerin or nitrocellulose would be the more common components for propellants if you're interested in a molecular structure tattoo.
w321shark
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I see what you are saying. I'm going to call one of my old professors and see if he can get me in touch with a chemistry prof and they could draw it up for me. Unless your wife wouldn't mind doing it. I don't know if it takes 2 mins or 30
Underdude
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Titegroup fan here!
11B3XCIB
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Couldn't post the image but it's available here if this is what you mean:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Nit ... eletal.png
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Nit ... eletal.png
w321shark
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Yeah I've got that. I just meant what the whole atomic structure would be with everything else. Nitroglycerin, nitrocellulose etc.
w321shark
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For unique maybe or titegroup
11B3XCIB
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You'd just have to get all the individual structures. They don't change into one new structure when they're all combined the way I understand it.
PCShogun
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Try this:
3HNO3+ C6H10O5 ? C6H7(NO2)3O5 + 3H2O
Its the structure for Nitrocellulose, the base for most smokeless propellants.
3HNO3+ C6H10O5 ? C6H7(NO2)3O5 + 3H2O
Its the structure for Nitrocellulose, the base for most smokeless propellants.
w321shark
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Yeah I know that of course. But how they are pieced together is the problem.
