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snowman03gt

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Ok guys going for my cc soon ad I don't want to use my 1911 since its a full size. I really like the 709 slim from tarurs but I just looked at the tarurs pt111 mil pro in a 9mm. Anybody have one of these or know about them I have small hands and the 709 fits my hand great
 
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If the 709 fits your hand great, go for it. The 740 version got the American Rifleman gun of the year award a couple of years back. One nice feature is the double strike capability, which lets you drop the hammer repeatedly on a failed primer, instead of having to rack the slide to reset the action. I guess that would also be handy if you practice dry diring with snap caps or with laser training rounds. And of course it's a single stack 9; currently choices are somewhat limited in that category.
 
And i am just saying because some don't know .... You don't have to shoot with the gun you plan on carrying. You could shoot with the 1911 and get the other later after you get to see and shoot one. You probably are more familiar with the 1911 as well!
 
Definitely use the 1911 at the CCW class. The shooting test shouldn't be hard but why make it more difficult than it needs to be?

Also, why not carry the 1911 as well and save both money and not add a new caliber that you have to stock? With a good holster and a good belt you should be able to conceal it adequately. Or, if you really like the 1911 platform why not pick up a 1911 "Commander?"

Breaking away from .45 ACP, the Sig P238 is like a mini 1911 as well... Although I'm not sure how I feel about cocked and locked single action firearms for pocket carry...

I'm a bit skeptical of the little pocket nines. We have a pocket Taurus TCP 380 for deep concealment and it is both finicky with ammo and difficult to shoot well due to the short sight radius, light weight, and marginal trigger. A compact M&P, Glock 19/26, or similar seems to offer a lot more gun in a fairly concealable package. If I were to get another deep concealment pocket gun I think I'd opt for a .38 snubbie.
 
for what is worth i used to carry my Springfield Armory XDM 5.25 which is the 5 1/4 inch barrel and 19+1 9mm and could conceal it quite well..... But now i carry the smaller S.A. XDS 45ACP
 
I have a couple of Tauruses but don't like the 709. Very long trigger pull with a very long reset.

I mostly carry my PT145. These actually have a nice trigger for CC. Quick reset.

Use you 1911. It doesn't matter for the class.
 
I think Taurus makes a single stack 45, the 745 maybe?

And of course there's the new Springfield XDS 45 getting rave reviews. And Kahr has some as well. But, to your original question, I would say whatever feels best in YOUR hand.
 
IF you shoot well with the 1911 then use that for the shooting portion of the CWP class then once you get your permit you can carry what ever floats your boat.

The Taurus PT-111 Millennium Pro is awesome for a compact, double stack 9mm. The one I have has well over 3K various rounds thru it and I cant ever remember an issue. The feed ramp on my gun was baby smooth polished from the factory, trigger is great as well. The ONLY issue I have with any Taurus semi auto is price of mags.. IF you can find them locally the price is a bit steep compared to the Glocks, Springfields, Beretta etc.

I have smaller hands so the PT-111 is a great fit for me.

Pic below is my PT111 Millennium Pro shooting Remington Bulk Pack 115gr at 10 yards............

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My wife and I both used a 22. Walter P22. Love those guns. A couple of the guys in the class that brought .45's, asked to use our .22's after we shot.......

Maybe SLED will get our permits to us soon, been awhile......
 
tucker said:
My wife and I both used a 22. Walter P22. Love those guns. A couple of the guys in the class that brought .45's, asked to use our .22's after we shot.......

Maybe SLED will get our permits to us soon, been awhile......
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just my 2 cents... If you brought a .45 and you aren't confident enough to shoot the CWP test with it you shouldn't be taking the CWP test yet!! you should put some more rounds down range first and build your skills! Just my 2 cents..... not that i have anything against shooting at the range with a .22 it has it's place.... But those guys aren't going to be carrying that .22 of yours they will have that .45.
 
Rosea Carpa said:
tucker said:
My wife and I both used a 22. Walter P22. Love those guns. A couple of the guys in the class that brought .45's, asked to use our .22's after we shot.......

Maybe SLED will get our permits to us soon, been awhile......
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just my 2 cents... If you brought a .45 and you aren't confident enough to shoot the CWP test with it you shouldn't be taking the CWP test yet!! you should put some more rounds down range first and build your skills! Just my 2 cents..... not that i have anything against shooting at the range with a .22 it has it's place.... But those guys aren't going to be carrying that .22 of yours they will have that .45.
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Eh, I'm fine with folks using whatever they want to take the silly SLED test. There is no legal obligation to qualify on what you're going to carry, unlike a handful of other states, and clearly the legislature could make it a requirement if they wanted to. While I would not suggest using a .22 LR for self defense, many have been so used and besides, it doesn't pick my pocket or break my leg if you use a sub-par caliber... I've still got my M&P!

Likewise I see no impact to public safety. I'm not aware of any research that shows that a longer CWP training requirement or more elaborate live fire requirement decrease weapons accidents or crimes among CWP holders (possibly because both are already substantially lower than the general public). The majority of states either have (A) unlicensed open carry (like NC), (B) licensed concealed carry with no live fire requirement at all (like PA), or (C) outright constitutional carry (Alaska) and seem to get along just fine. The only purpose to the SC test that I can see is to make the permit process more restrictive and prevent certain types of people from obtaining CWPs. So knock yourself out shooting whatever you shoot well and enjoy shooting on the test, whether that be your .45 or a .22 or a HiPoint or an old Model 10 or whatever. I don't have to carry what you shoot on the test, and neither do you.
 
What i said was if you have a .45 and are going to carry it you should be able to shoot it well enough for that "silly sled test" not have to borrow someone elses .22..... I have nothing against carrying a .22 heck i am looking at a SMALL one to carry when it is hard to carry the XDS. I was just pointing out the fact that is sounded like those guys needed to practice more ..... or buy their own .22 to carry. That was all sorry.
 
I'm going to carry a 9mm with my body aka a skinny frame my big 1911 is to big for me to Carry I would love to carry it but I want a 9mm
 
snowman03gt said:
I'm going to carry a 9mm with my body aka a skinny frame my big 1911 is to big for me to Carry I would love to carry it but I want a 9mm
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Have you already bought the .9? If not and you want a .45 they make compact 1911 style weapons or look into the Springfield Armory XDS!!
 
The 809c looks like a good choice for a CCW, its nice and compact with a real hammer and has nice rounded edges that seem to make ccw easier for those of us with small/medium build frames. Make sure you share some pics and range report if you decide to pick it up.
 
We practice alot with our .22's. It is cheap ammo. We finally got our CWP's this past week-end. My wife carries her S&W 642 hammerless; me, S&W 637 hammer, both .38 special plus P.

Usually when we practice, we may send 100 rounds out of each .22 and about 30-40 each on the 38's. Practice with FMJ and keep Self Defense plus P rounds in them when we carry....
 
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