Can someone translate my friend trying to help me, told me?

Roszhou

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He said to me, after looking at my new 4” barrel 1911, the following 2 items I do not understand:

1) The breechface “J cut” was not well cut, as evidenced by the brass smears on that side having a very distinct vertical separation line that you can see immediately above the ejector.
2) The ejector does not fit the ejector cut in the slide very well.

Than you to anyone that can translate what he said into “English“ THANK YOU!!! And, will either of these issues affect the functioning of my un-shot 1911? Will something break? Will the ejector break over time?

I’m trying to learn all I can about new 1911‘s. I’m 99% certain mine’s an 80 version, not a 70 version, that I hear a 70 model has an even better trigger “feel”. Never shot a 70 version of a 1911. The difference is no firing pin safety? Is that correct? I LOVE mechanical wrist and pocket watches, which started my love of 1911’s, and their SWEET triggers!!!! And being “more mechanical“ than a polymer gun. My Glocks all have a kinda “mushy”, and stacking triggers. NOTHING like a 1911 trigger! But you (to my knowledge) CANNOT freeze a 1911 in a block of ice, melt the ice, and like a Glock, that was frozen in ice, fires. That’s amazing that Glocks can do that! Sorry, I’m just rambling. Too much time on my hands. Sorry!!

Thank you in advance!!

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Not sure what the reference to the “J” cut means.....As for the ejector not fitting the slide cut very well: The internals such as the ejector are generally made to fairly close tolerances as are the slide cuts. If you have any doubts about these I would consult your local gunsmith. Both concerns seem kind of odd to me. If you have any doubts about these consult your local gunsmith.

Don’t believe all the hype about Glocks being able to be frozen and still function but a 1911 won’t. There are videos that will dispel every one of the myths about 1911 vs. Glock. I once saw a video of a Rock Island Armory 1911 encased in cement, dragged behind a truck, the cement broken off with a hammer and the 1911 still functioned flawlessly. In real life we don’t freeze Glocks and we don’t drag 1911s behind trucks. In real life both have functioned as designed in war zones with extreme environments. I probably put a total of 200,000 rounds through various 1911s over the years and I have had very few malfunctions. I see malfunctions in Glocks and every other platform often enough at the range where I work. Most malfunctions, regardless of platform or brand, are operator induced or due to excessively dirty guns or faulty or worn magazines.
Shoot, have fun, keep your firearm clean and properly lubricated and stay away from steel cased ammunition as a steady diet. Steel cases won’t really hurt your gun except for the fact most are coated with some type of polymer or other rust inhibitor and that stuff will gum up the works if you don’t clean and lube often.
 

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How does it shoot?

I have no idea what a J cut is.

On some guns , when you look at the back of the slide, there is a little gap between the ejector and the slide . I tend to notice it more on production guns than custom or semi custom .

I wouldn’t be concerned about either comment .
If you find out what a J cut is, let us know. I’ve been active in other forums ( not so much in this one ) for 12 years and have never heard of the term J cut.
 

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Badabing11,
As a new 1911 owner,I have no idea what a “J” cut is either! Thank you pistolgrips and badabing for your response!! I cannot believe someone would put a gun in cement! ANY gun! WOW! Crazy abuse! Kinda stupid actually. Oh well. People do all kinds of crazy stuff. Thanks both of you!!
 

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Badabing11,
As a new 1911 owner,I have no idea what a “J” cut is either! Thank you pistolgrips and badabing for your response!! I cannot believe someone would put a gun in cement! ANY gun! WOW! Crazy abuse! Kinda stupid actually. Oh well. People do all kinds of crazy stuff. Thanks both of you!!
I still want to know how it shoots ;)
 

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I’m trying to learn all I can about new 1911‘s. I’m 99% certain mine’s an 80 version, not a 70 version, that I hear a 70 model has an even better trigger “feel”. Never shot a 70 version of a 1911. The difference is no firing pin safety? Is that correct?
Correct on the 80 vs 70 guns. I prefer the 70 series, some say the series 80 trigger can be made as good as a 70. I just don't deal with series 80 guns. Or I convert them to a 70. The debate is almost as good as 45 vs 9mm or striker fired vs single action... Lots of opinions on each side. :D

Never heard of the "J cut" either . Curious what that is.
 

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I think this is the "J" cut your friend is referring to that will leave a mark on the brass. This can be corrected by a skilled gunsmith by careful filing and / or stoning level with the breach face. Just my guess but should not be a big concern.;)
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He said to me, after looking at my new 4” barrel 1911, the following 2 items I do not understand:

1) The breechface “J cut” was not well cut, as evidenced by the brass smears on that side having a very distinct vertical separation line that you can see immediately above the ejector.
2) The ejector does not fit the ejector cut in the slide very well.

Than you to anyone that can translate what he said into “English“ THANK YOU!!! And, will either of these issues affect the functioning of my un-shot 1911? Will something break? Will the ejector break over time?

I’m trying to learn all I can about new 1911‘s. I’m 99% certain mine’s an 80 version, not a 70 version, that I hear a 70 model has an even better trigger “feel”. Never shot a 70 version of a 1911. The difference is no firing pin safety? Is that correct? I LOVE mechanical wrist and pocket watches, which started my love of 1911’s, and their SWEET triggers!!!! And being “more mechanical“ than a polymer gun. My Glocks all have a kinda “mushy”, and stacking triggers. NOTHING like a 1911 trigger! But you (to my knowledge) CANNOT freeze a 1911 in a block of ice, melt the ice, and like a Glock, that was frozen in ice, fires. That’s amazing that Glocks can do that! Sorry, I’m just rambling. Too much time on my hands. Sorry!!

Thank you in advance!!

: )))))
A “J-cut” is probably your friend’s verbal shorthand for the cut on the breach face, especially if he’s a machinist. If your breach face isn’t square with the slide a good gunsmith should be able to to correct that with a mill or a file. As for the ejector, the tip that kicks out the empty case may need to be tuned in order to eject empty cases in a small radius. Keep in mind that everything you read here could be scripture or it could be mere opinions, and we all know what opinions are like. If you suspect that a gun might be unsafe or unreliable carry it to a gunsmith and pay a few dollars for peace of mind and needed repairs. Never, and I mean never, rely on the opinions of folks that aren’t professional gunsmiths.
 

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How does it shoot?

I have no idea what a J cut is.

On some guns , when you look at the back of the slide, there is a little gap between the ejector and the slide . I tend to notice it more on production guns than custom or semi custom .

I wouldn’t be concerned about either comment .
If you find out what a J cut is, let us know. I’ve been active in other forums ( not so much in this one ) for 12 years and have never heard of the term J cut.
I think he's referring to the actual extractor ( The part of the extractor that hooks onto the the shell casing ) that pulls the shell casing out of the gun once fired.
 

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If it functions reliably , and is accurate , leave it alone .
Mike has it . If it’s running well , leave it alone . I’ve been there too many times trying to correct something I thought would be unrelated to function , only to find it can be like initiating a chain of dominos.

I did own a Kimber 4” that left a little dent on the casing like you show . Actually mine was much worse. I had Been having ejection issues and had an extended ejector installed . The ejection problems went away, but the rim of the case got dents in them . I don’t reload , and the gun ran better. I’d leave that alone too.
 

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