American Marksman Amateur Shooting Competition

Okshot22 · Feb 22, 2016

[SIZE=9pt]American Marksman is a new, nationwide amateur shooting competition! American Marksman is owned and operated by The Outdoor Channel and will eventually lead into a TV show with the winner receiving a $50,000 Grand Prize. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]The way this works is you register at www.AmMarksman.com and participate at a local qualifying range between March 1st and May 31st. You can find the local qualifying range closest to you at www.AmMarksman.com. The competition is a modified postal match. At the local level a shooter will choose either .22 Pistol, Rifle, or both and will get 2 chances at the course of fire per each firearm selected. For one firearm its $20 and for both it is only $35!

If you do well enough and progress into the regional competition[/SIZE][SIZE=9pt] you will get to shoot multiple different firearms and calibers, all of which WE will provide at that level![/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]One of the major draws of this competition is that it is amateur shooters only. No one who has ever been paid, sponsored, or finished in the top 10% in a national championship is eligible to participate. We know there are GREAT amateur shooters all across America! We've designed the local course of fire to be a low barrier of entry but still difficult and challenging. It is so much fun being put under the pressure, testing your skills with a timer, and having the thought of getting $50,000 dollars in your head. If we can get more people involved in the sports we love and the life style we all immerse ourselves in, we all win!

We have 4 divisions:
Men's open (17+)[/SIZE]
Women's open (17+)
Youth (12-16)
Military/Law Enforcement

Do any of you think you have what it takes to be the FIRST American Marksman?
[SIZE=9pt]I would love to answer more questions if any of you have any![/SIZE]
[SIZE=9pt]Email: [email protected][/SIZE]
Website: www.AmMarksman.com

jtischauser · Feb 22, 2016

We have been talking about that competition in another thread. Are you with the show or do you run a local club/match?

wav3rhythm · Feb 22, 2016

Can I shoot my PCC?

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Feegee · Feb 22, 2016

Looks fun think I am going to do it

dennishoddy · Feb 22, 2016

I'm going to do it.
Ordered a dozen of their targets to get some practice in. The targets are not very expensive at all, but the shipping is terrible.

Pasters will be my friend to get as many shots as possible on them.

LuckyDucky · Feb 22, 2016

Wow, so I can't participate because of GSSF. Hilarious.

I'm still not a master in GSSF. For someone in C class in USPSA, winning a gun in GSSF isn't that hard, let alone making top 10% in the amateur-civilian division. That's crap.

Under their "major" match list, they only list nationals EXCEPT for GSSF. In GSSF, EVERY match is a "major" match.

It also looks like the top 15% of D-class shooters in each division at USPSA nationals would be disqualified too, but an A-class bordering on master shooter that never went to nationals would be allowed.

Also looks like red dots are allowed to compete against iron sights.

MarkCO · Feb 23, 2016

It is top 10% in any national classification system or major match. For USPSA, that means M and GM (or top 15%). The rest is just the top 10%.

MarkCO · Feb 23, 2016

Jesse Tischauser said:
We have been talking about that competition in another thread. Are you with the show or do you run a local club/match?

No idea who that is. Could be a host range owner, but not with the competition.

jtischauser · Feb 23, 2016

Thanks for chiming in Mark. Good to see you back on Boomer.

MarkCO · Feb 23, 2016

Jesse Tischauser said:
Thanks for chiming in Mark. Good to see you back on Boomer.

It is cool here for sure. Just too little time. Now, which of my 4 jobs to get back to work on???

MarkCO · Feb 23, 2016

dennishoddy said:
I'm going to do it.
Ordered a dozen of their targets to get some practice in. The targets are not very expensive at all, but the shipping is terrible.

Pasters will be my friend to get as many shots as possible on them.

You might not need it, but I have a series of 8 videos in 8 days that breaks down the local level competition. Day 1 and 2 are posted and 1 per day the next 6 days: https://www.facebook.com/Element-Multi-Gun-504559829685716/?ref=hl

LuckyDucky · Feb 23, 2016

MarkCO said:
It is top 10% in any national classification system or major match. For USPSA, that means M and GM (or top 15%). The rest is just the top 10%.

Why are ALL GSSF matches considered major matches? Competition level is nowhere near comparable to NATIONAL competitions in other shooting disciplines.

MarkCO · Feb 23, 2016

Spencer said:
Why are ALL GSSF matches considered major matches? Competition level is nowhere near comparable to NATIONAL competitions in other shooting disciplines.

The league matches do not count, only the regionals, which are, in essence major level matches based on the competitor count, at least at most of them.

Ryan Groves · Feb 23, 2016

MarkCO said:
It is top 10% in any national classification system or major match. For USPSA, that means M and GM (or top 15%). The rest is just the top 10%.

I was trying to figure out if it's top 10 or 15% for a single classifier shot or only if you are actually classified as top 10/15%? Previously they didn't have the the M or GM for USPSA clarification, but now that they do it makes me think If I got lucky and shot a 85+% classifier in the next months I'm fine if their basing it off actual classification/average of highest 6 classifiers not just one or two random high scoring classifiers shot

MarkCO · Feb 23, 2016

Your ACTUAL USPSA classification, which if you are M or GM, no-fly zone. IDPA is Master only..

LuckyDucky · Feb 23, 2016

MarkCO said:
The league matches do not count, only the regionals, which are, in essence major level matches based on the competitor count, at least at most of them.

There's no such thing as "regionals." They are just matches, just like sanctioned Level 1 USPSA matches. The competitor skill at GSSF matches is generally lower than other competitions like USPSA or IDPA anyways. Also, people are allowed to enter matches multiple times by shooting different divisions. There are not really 500 shooters at a match with 500 entries.

Are you saying that the GSSF match in Pryor this April is the equivalent of USPSA nationals?

If you want to disqualify shooters based on GSSF, it would make more sense to limit disqualifications to master shooters who have placed 1st, 2nd, or 3rd, in a division with 10 or more master shooters or something similar. That would be more equivalent to being M or GM or top 15% at USPSA nationals.

For example, one of the largest annual GSSF matches is in Griffin, Georgia. Last year it had 291 entries in the amateur civilian division, meaning that top 10% is 29 people. The 1st place score was 64.77 seconds.

Now look at master stock division, which had 40 entries, meaning that 10% is 4 people. Master stock is limited to masters only. The 4th person had 49.46 seconds for his time. It isn't even comparable.

MarkCO · Feb 23, 2016

Really?

I guess this match does not exist?

February 27 - 28, 2016
Tallahassee, Florida
Talon Range
Northern Florida Regional Classic III

LuckyDucky · Feb 23, 2016

MarkCO said:
Really?

I guess this match does not exist?
February 27 - 28, 2016
Tallahassee, Florida
Talon Range
Northern Florida Regional Classic III

So if we start calling the USSA Level 1 USPSA match in Tulsa, Oklahoma the "Four State Regional" or the "Ozarks Regional" does that mean it is a "major match"?

The Tallahasse, FL match is EXACTLY the same as any other GSSF match. It is not like a level 1 and level 3 USPSA match.

MarkCO · Feb 23, 2016

So I prove you wrong and you circle into a different argument. Frankly, not worth my time to try and answer your rabbit track arguments.

Spencer said:
There's no such thing as "regionals." They are just matches, just like sanctioned Level 1 USPSA matches. The competitor skill at GSSF matches is generally lower than other competitions like USPSA or IDPA anyways. Also, people are allowed to enter matches multiple times by shooting different divisions. There are not really 500 shooters at a match with 500 entries.

LuckyDucky · Feb 23, 2016

MarkCO said:
So I prove you wrong and you circle into a different argument. Frankly, not worth my time to try and answer your rabbit track arguments.

Is a GSSF match equivalent to USPSA nationals? The only other types of matches listed on your "major" match list are nationals and world shoots.

Hopefully you see what I'm getting at here. People who clearly aren't "elite" shooters, like me, are disqualified for participating in an amateur class in GSSF. Instead, you will end up with many shooters who will lose their nonrefundable fees in your competition because of the vague rules.

It would be like disqualifying a D-class participant for winning D-class at a Level 1 USPSA match.