9mm bayou Bullets

Firemanama · Jan 13, 2012

Is anyone loading 9mm with bayou bullets and titegroup? What's a good recipe?

Airic · Jan 13, 2012

What are you shooting?

Firemanama · Jan 13, 2012

Well I haven't ordered any yet wondering what to order I have been loading jacketed bullets. Im gomna be shooting it out of my m&p pro. I'm thinking 124's unless someone has a better recipe.

Wall · Jan 13, 2012

I have a nice load (yep, I said it) using 147's & WST.

shootingbuff · Jan 13, 2012

Have not tried the bullets in question but would also steer you to 147 gr bullets. If you don't like WST there is always 320, and most every other pistol powder.AA2, Clays, Bullseye, Solo 1000(?) Are all very good for match ammo near(ish) the same burn rate and TG which you asked works well as well.

Firemanama · Jan 13, 2012

Do tell please I can change powders. I have just been using titegroup.

drmitchgibson · Jan 13, 2012

I was using Titegroup and 115 grainers, but the hot load (yep, I said it) on Enos is 124 grainers and many powders. I just got the 4K 124 grainers, and have a pound of VV320 and SR7625. I'm going to use the VV320 first, since it's rep is untarnished.

Wall · Jan 13, 2012

I shoot 3.4 grn WST & a 147grn Bayou Bullet at 1.13 OAL from my M&P pro with a 13lb recoil spring.

Scott Hearn · Jan 13, 2012

I'll be honest. Get the 124s or 147s and use WST powder. N320 is a great powder but it costs MUCH more than WST and it's hard to find at times.
Solo 1000 is good too, it's also a single base powder just like N320 with a similar burn rate.

Actually WST, Solo 1K and N320 are similar in burn rate and will work very well. Save the Titegroup for jacketed, it's really really hot burning (flame temp) and that's not good with lead.

Firemanama · Jan 13, 2012

Alright thanks for the help!

shootingbuff · Jan 13, 2012

Mitch Gibson said:
I was using Titegroup and 115 grainers, but the hot load (yep, I said it) on Enos is 124 grainers and many powders. I just got the 4K 124 grainers, and have a pound of VV320 and SR7625. I'm going to use the VV320 first, since it's rep is untarnished.

I would guess the use of 124 gr was with a comp and or a dot?

Airic · Jan 14, 2012

If your looking to keep the cost down then go with the 115's or 124's. If you looking for a really soft shooting round for competition, try the 160's. I tested both the 147 and 160 and the 160 is like shooting a .22. My production load is the 160 with titegroup and I use so little titegroup to get it to minor PF that I can get 2500 rounds out of 1 pound.

Click my video link in my sig line and you can watch how soft my glock 34 shoots. Every video (except the rimfire steel challenge) is that load through that gun.

drmitchgibson · Jan 14, 2012

shootingbuff said:
I would guess the use of 124 gr was with a comp and or a dot?

Nope, just a normal gun. I'm not sure what the reasoning is outside of direct experience, but there was too much too ignore from a group I currently respect very highly.

shootingbuff · Jan 14, 2012

Mitch Gibson said:
Nope, just a normal gun. I'm not sure what the reasoning is outside of direct experience, but there was too much too ignore from a group I currently respect very highly.

Thanks for the response. Makes no sense to me but who am I? lol

shootingbuff · Jan 14, 2012

Airic said:
If your looking to keep the cost down then go with the 115's or 124's. If you looking for a really soft shooting round for competition, try the 160's. I tested both the 147 and 160 and the 160 is like shooting a .22. My production load is the 160 with titegroup and I use so little titegroup to get it to minor PF that I can get 2500 rounds out of 1 pound.

Click my video link in my sig line and you can watch how soft my glock 34 shoots. Every video (except the rimfire steel challenge) is that load through that gun.

What recoil spring are you using?

Firemanama · Jan 14, 2012

Airic said:
If your looking to keep the cost down then go with the 115's or 124's. If you looking for a really soft shooting round for competition, try the 160's. I tested both the 147 and 160 and the 160 is like shooting a .22. My production load is the 160 with titegroup and I use so little titegroup to get it to minor PF that I can get 2500 rounds out of 1 pound.

Click my video link in my sig line and you can watch how soft my glock 34 shoots. Every video (except the rimfire steel challenge) is that load through that gun.

Wow that's some soft recoil! Did you have to change your spring? What is your recipe?

drmitchgibson · Jan 14, 2012

I personally have moved to try the 124s because my recoil impulse was extreme. I run a Glock 17 with a 13 lbs. recoil spring. The lighter spring made shooting it hurt my hand after an all day session, but that turned out to be mostly my arms/wrists being angled too severely. So even though it's not such an issue, I thought it would be good to start experimenting and looking for something maybe not better, but preferable.

Airic · Jan 14, 2012

BHORN said:
Wow that's some soft recoil! Did you have to change your spring? What is your recipe?

I'm running a 15lb spring. 2.7gr of titegroup got me 129 PF at nationals. Might not be the same through your M&P so if you get some work it up.

The Antichrome · Jan 14, 2012

This is why I like the BBI 130's so much. (I wish they werent so hard to obtain)
1020fps gets you a 132+ PF. With a steel gun and a 10lb spring, its dreamy.

With 115's you gotta run a cracking 1150fps and even with 124's it's 1070fps. (thru a sub 5" gun that'd be a pretty blasty load)
Heavy bullets like 147's & 160's feel sluggish to me...but some people swear by them.