71/2 vs 8 shot

gondo

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So who has opinions on 71/2 vs 8 shot for 3 gun? Which one and why? I have always shot 71/2 but i was shooting some random things the other day and it almost seemed like the 8 had more umph on the knockdown... i think it was because i was getting more pellets on targets and my guess is the benefit of more smaller pellets on target would diminish quickly at farther distances...
 
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I don't care which I use. I buy either depending on whats available.

I did buy a few cases of 9's for stages with all clays.
 
Jesse Tischauser said:
I don't care which I use. I buy either depending on whats available.

I did buy a few cases of 9's for stages with all clays.
out of curiosity what shell and choke do you use for stage 6 on pro series? i know you have had the winning combo once!
 
I used diffusion with 9's I think. I would run diffusion with spreaders if I had had spreaders with me.
 
Alright one more question ... Tell us what you think the range for diffusion is on some different targets
 
Cameron Gonder (gondo) said:
Alright one more question ... Tell us what you think the range for diffusion is on some different targets
Depends on how the heavy and straight that the target is set and what barrel length.

I will run diffusion with a 21" barrel on

Clays out to about 25 yards,
Steel plates Inside 10 yards,
Big poppers inside 15 yards,
Small poppers Inside 10 yards,
Forward falling poppers out to maybe 20 yards.

Your best bet is to get a variety of targets and test it for yourself.
 
9's are legit for clays, all it takes is 1 little hole.

I've always used 7.5's for almost everything, mostly because the matches i shoot are mostly steel. I think it comes from shooting a lot of doves growing up and late in the season as their feathers get thicker with colder weather you need 7.5's to knock them down most of the time. I think I've always thought of steel the same way. Don't have any data to prove or disprove it.
 
As a skeet shooter, there is allot of consideration on this--as mentioned, we just need a chip out of the bird for a 'hit', nothing else. Nice to see them dust, but its not required. Since shot is loaded by weight, the size of the pellet will determine how many pellets you get in a shell--the link below will give you an idea on that:

http://www.shotgunworld.com/amm.html

Obviously, the smaller the pellet the less it will weigh, and the more things like wind will affect it. Additionally, wad and choke selection will play into shot column density and compression as it leaves the barrel. However, the smaller the pellet, the less mass it will have, and the less energy transfer to the target. I've seen 9 shot out of a 20 gauge just "push" the clays. I generally run 7.5 as the heavier pellet is a better trade in my opinion than more pellets.

Another factor to consider is the velocity of the shells. A higher velocity/dram eqv. will give you more punch against steel than say a low-recoil target load. I'm still a begginer 3-gun shooter, but my target loads haven't had issues on any of the steel--they're Federal GM cases, 1oz 7.5 shot, at running about 1180fps. Most standard loads run around 1200fps, with handicap running 1300fps. I also have some cheapo wally-world Remington cases that suck for reloading--so I'm just letting them and the Federals fly (for skeet I'm going with Rem Gun Club hulls).

One last thing if you're reloading: chilled vs magnum shot. Chilled is pure lead, magnum is a alloy. Problem with magnum shot is its lighter than chilled, and if you're using a Mec press for example, the 1oz shot bar is bored for chilled/pure lead shot so your load will actually be a bit light if using magnum. Easy option is to just ream the shot bar out till it drops the specified weight of magnum--but then you'll need to adjust the wad compression due to a bit more shot being dropped (again, everything is from you only had lead shot).
 
I use 7 1/2 mainly because it's easily available. I stocked up on it a while ago. I just want to pick one and stick with it. I didn't see much benifit between 8 and 7 1/2, but I could get the 7 1/2 in bulk, so I went with it.
 
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