Jerryinokc
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Hey, Spencer, if you wouldn't mind, shoot me that 3rd pic. [email protected]. I can't believe how muddy it was.
2014 Oklahoma Sectional
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Jerryinokc
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Actually, all 3 pics, please!
desert_gypsy
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Great match guys. Remember to use plenty of loctite on your front sight, is my protip for the day. Those things can be hard to find in the mud. Thanks again, Matt lol
The Antichrome
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As usual, crappyscore results are all ****ed up.Matt Rigsby said:
brandt9913
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What's wrong with results? Old guys hating on technology again.The Antichrome said:
If you're looking for Production results, scroll to bottom. They're below the Limited results.
The Antichrome
Moderator
1. Old enough to know shitware when I see it.
2. Gosh it never occurred to me to look below the Limited results, especially since I was clicking on the overall Production tab.
Why the hell would the results be placed there? Thats just plain stupid.
3. I dont scroll down thru the results.
4. Why is Seth listed 3 times in Limited?
2. Gosh it never occurred to me to look below the Limited results, especially since I was clicking on the overall Production tab.
Why the hell would the results be placed there? Thats just plain stupid.
3. I dont scroll down thru the results.
4. Why is Seth listed 3 times in Limited?
ChrisC
Revolver Division
Tony and Jamison.....
Prov1x
Well-Known Fanatic
What the F***...Pee Wee was awesome!!!Micah_Rowe said:
irons_shooter
TOLA Guy
The Seth being listed was not practiscores fault per se. The scores were recorded on Seth Miller's name so we had to change his name and information in PS to get it right. The third entry was an operator error by me trying to figure it out. Now. The scroll through the limited scores under production to get to production, well that's practiscore. 
mike cyrwus
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Beating one Seth Martin is average, it happens fairly regularly; but when I beat three of em, man! I should have shaved off that fruity green hair and made a mag brush out of it
silver star
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COMPETITION- the act or process of trying to get or win something (such as a prize or a higher level of success) that someone else is also trying to get or win :
I think this was an awesome and unique competition.
I was thrown into rare skill usage.
Safer footwork, cleaning mud off feet for better traction on some stages while leaving it on for other stages for hi flotation effects.
Magazines, cleaning mud off and out of mags. I saw folks using puddles, melted ice in coolers, sink, faucets, shirts, hankies.
I hope no one dropped their pistol.
While I'm in this definition mode, remembering my horse racing days this would not have been rated a muddy track, it would have been most definitely rated SLOPPY.
EPIC-extending beyond the usual or ordinary .
I think this applies to all the shooters but more so to the manpower involved in putting on the match.
Especially our RO's:
GREAT JOB and...THANKS!!
So glad I did not let the weatherman talk me into staying home where it was dry.
Please post what new experiences these conditions pushed you into or what you saw others do.
I'm working on posting some pics.
I think this was an awesome and unique competition.
I was thrown into rare skill usage.
Safer footwork, cleaning mud off feet for better traction on some stages while leaving it on for other stages for hi flotation effects.
Magazines, cleaning mud off and out of mags. I saw folks using puddles, melted ice in coolers, sink, faucets, shirts, hankies.
I hope no one dropped their pistol.
While I'm in this definition mode, remembering my horse racing days this would not have been rated a muddy track, it would have been most definitely rated SLOPPY.
EPIC-extending beyond the usual or ordinary .
I think this applies to all the shooters but more so to the manpower involved in putting on the match.
Especially our RO's:
GREAT JOB and...THANKS!!
So glad I did not let the weatherman talk me into staying home where it was dry.
Please post what new experiences these conditions pushed you into or what you saw others do.
I'm working on posting some pics.
foghorn918
Consistently Inconsistent
The conditions got me a new pair of tennis shoes 
Seriously, I need to take a look of some other type of shoes for this kind of weather and muddy conditions.
Seriously, I need to take a look of some other type of shoes for this kind of weather and muddy conditions.
Jerryinokc
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Michael, I'll take a shot at offering my general thoughts/observations/pointers for whatever they're worth (and apologize now for the length). This was my first competitive match. I've attended several indoor shooting events, but none outdoors and for official results in USPSA. Some of these observations are, quite frankly, embarrassing. I'll mention them and take the ego hit in hopes that other new shooters can learn from my mistakes:
1. Pre-event planning...know and understand as best you can the rules. There's a reason those of us that are new have plenty of room to learn. I didn't chrono my loads before the match. Hell, I'm shooting .45 with a 230gr bullet...it has to make Power Factor (PF), right? Stupid. I loaded Universal Clays, 4.6gr (max load), 230gr TMJ. Do the math (wait, a good start is to stop and learn the math) and that load hits 155 PF. I failed the chrono and dropped to Minor. This should have been a foundational process prior to the match and for some reason I really took this hard. It's such a basic thing.
2. Watch the one's that know what they're doing. Anytime I've participated in something new, I try to keep my mouth shut, watch, participate, and learn. I can't stress this enough...the only way you will learn is by watching, asking questions, then doing what you've learned. You'll see this one over and over in what follows.
3. Slow down, take a deep breath, and focus on having fun in the process. I set my three main objectives for this first match as follows...1) be safe at all times, 2) go slow, and 3) do not get DQ'ed. I know these sound rather elementary, but all I wanted on this first one was to get through the day and not do anything massively stupid. That meant internal discussion with myself from the point I heard, "Shooter make ready", to, "Show clear, hammer down, and holster". Go slow. Take that deep breath after you place your feet at the marks. It's okay, really, because nobody wants to rush you. I know on most of my stages that the other shooters would have been totally justified in mentioning it might be good to stop taking 4 minutes to complete the stage...but they didn't (okay, maybe I didn't take quite that long, but it had to feel like 4 minutes after a while).
4. Learn from your mistakes. I came within one inch of being DQ'ed in the first stage I shot (that was the RO's quote). Why? 180 rule. I'm still wondering what stopped me from continuing the turn. Our squad had two very good RO's (see the following point #4). After I finished that stage, they both took the effort to warn and talk with me, not only for safety, but so that I could learn. Trust me, that one lesson stayed with me the rest of the day and I can only pray it's at the forefront of my mind during every match.
5. Ask questions of your RO's and other shooters that have the experience. As mentioned above, and while I guess they aren't supposed to comment in the form of "helping" due to being non-partial, it's very, very helpful for the new shooter to learn from the RO's direction. I think I may have crossed the line into annoying-ville with all my questions, but I didn't know some of the terms and processes used. Ask, ask, ask. Every single person, from the shooters to the RO's to the Range Master, stopped and explained in detail when I had questions. I can't even begin to tell you how helpful everyone was, and that not only helped me learn, but made me understand that these people truly care about helping someone ease into the sport. That's a big deal with me and I sincerely appreciate everyones help.
6. No matter how tired you are, try and go the extra mile in helping the squad. To be honest, by the 7th stage, I admit I was totally exhausted. I had no idea it would be so tiring shooting 10 stages (see #1 above). I know I slacked off a little towards the end, but I tried to be out patching every time both before and after I finished my stage. I also tried to learn more at the time about the rules and setup of different targets (and the only way to do that is being out there). I had never set-up poppers nor any other of the multi-faceted targets. Oh, here's one... the time to realize the star moves as you shoot the "tips" off is NOT during the time you're shooting it. Hopefully the look on my face after that recognition and mumbling about somehow missing that fact provided some levity for the rest of the squad...
7. Tip those that are working so hard to feed the participants. Had I not heard someone mention a tip jar, I probably wouldn't have thought to look for one. I travel a tremendous amount and always try and respect the folks providing the service, but if you don't know the process for doing this at a match, ask. For that matter, it doesn't even always have to be monetary...take the time to swing by the grill and say thank you. The smile you receive will go miles.
8. If you are new (and some will say regardless of this), respect the match organizers by staying until the end. Believe me, I know what hectic schedules are all about. Most of us do. However, after such a long day of shooting, it doesn't hurt anything to stay an extra 30 or 45 minutes and support the organizers and participants fortunate enough to place and get an award. I believe it was mentioned by the Match Director that this was his first match as a Director. While I don't know enough to tell a difference on the finer points, both the Director and Range Master busted their asses to accommodate everyone that I could see. I had some VERY good shooters in my squad. They requested a number of rulings that required the Range Master to come to the stage, whether concerning a target ruling or calibration request. Regardless of how your day turned out, they deserve the respect that after-shooting attendance provides.
There are probably 20 other points I'm not thinking about yet, but they all stem from the categories above. Plan for the elements, stay hydrated, make sure your batteries work for your electronic ear protection, don't use a gun bag you were given in a golf tournament 20 years ago (because the handles will break), take the snacks out of the car BEFORE you start, etc. Recognition of these and others I think of as time goes by will hopefully not only make me a better shooter, but a better participant. One day, maybe I will learn enough so I can help others like I was helped yesterday.
I truly enjoyed everything about the day and, because of the excellent experience every one provided, I can't wait to get out there again and fix some of the mistakes I made.
1. Pre-event planning...know and understand as best you can the rules. There's a reason those of us that are new have plenty of room to learn. I didn't chrono my loads before the match. Hell, I'm shooting .45 with a 230gr bullet...it has to make Power Factor (PF), right? Stupid. I loaded Universal Clays, 4.6gr (max load), 230gr TMJ. Do the math (wait, a good start is to stop and learn the math) and that load hits 155 PF. I failed the chrono and dropped to Minor. This should have been a foundational process prior to the match and for some reason I really took this hard. It's such a basic thing.
2. Watch the one's that know what they're doing. Anytime I've participated in something new, I try to keep my mouth shut, watch, participate, and learn. I can't stress this enough...the only way you will learn is by watching, asking questions, then doing what you've learned. You'll see this one over and over in what follows.
3. Slow down, take a deep breath, and focus on having fun in the process. I set my three main objectives for this first match as follows...1) be safe at all times, 2) go slow, and 3) do not get DQ'ed. I know these sound rather elementary, but all I wanted on this first one was to get through the day and not do anything massively stupid. That meant internal discussion with myself from the point I heard, "Shooter make ready", to, "Show clear, hammer down, and holster". Go slow. Take that deep breath after you place your feet at the marks. It's okay, really, because nobody wants to rush you. I know on most of my stages that the other shooters would have been totally justified in mentioning it might be good to stop taking 4 minutes to complete the stage...but they didn't (okay, maybe I didn't take quite that long, but it had to feel like 4 minutes after a while).
4. Learn from your mistakes. I came within one inch of being DQ'ed in the first stage I shot (that was the RO's quote). Why? 180 rule. I'm still wondering what stopped me from continuing the turn. Our squad had two very good RO's (see the following point #4). After I finished that stage, they both took the effort to warn and talk with me, not only for safety, but so that I could learn. Trust me, that one lesson stayed with me the rest of the day and I can only pray it's at the forefront of my mind during every match.
5. Ask questions of your RO's and other shooters that have the experience. As mentioned above, and while I guess they aren't supposed to comment in the form of "helping" due to being non-partial, it's very, very helpful for the new shooter to learn from the RO's direction. I think I may have crossed the line into annoying-ville with all my questions, but I didn't know some of the terms and processes used. Ask, ask, ask. Every single person, from the shooters to the RO's to the Range Master, stopped and explained in detail when I had questions. I can't even begin to tell you how helpful everyone was, and that not only helped me learn, but made me understand that these people truly care about helping someone ease into the sport. That's a big deal with me and I sincerely appreciate everyones help.
6. No matter how tired you are, try and go the extra mile in helping the squad. To be honest, by the 7th stage, I admit I was totally exhausted. I had no idea it would be so tiring shooting 10 stages (see #1 above). I know I slacked off a little towards the end, but I tried to be out patching every time both before and after I finished my stage. I also tried to learn more at the time about the rules and setup of different targets (and the only way to do that is being out there). I had never set-up poppers nor any other of the multi-faceted targets. Oh, here's one... the time to realize the star moves as you shoot the "tips" off is NOT during the time you're shooting it. Hopefully the look on my face after that recognition and mumbling about somehow missing that fact provided some levity for the rest of the squad...
7. Tip those that are working so hard to feed the participants. Had I not heard someone mention a tip jar, I probably wouldn't have thought to look for one. I travel a tremendous amount and always try and respect the folks providing the service, but if you don't know the process for doing this at a match, ask. For that matter, it doesn't even always have to be monetary...take the time to swing by the grill and say thank you. The smile you receive will go miles.
8. If you are new (and some will say regardless of this), respect the match organizers by staying until the end. Believe me, I know what hectic schedules are all about. Most of us do. However, after such a long day of shooting, it doesn't hurt anything to stay an extra 30 or 45 minutes and support the organizers and participants fortunate enough to place and get an award. I believe it was mentioned by the Match Director that this was his first match as a Director. While I don't know enough to tell a difference on the finer points, both the Director and Range Master busted their asses to accommodate everyone that I could see. I had some VERY good shooters in my squad. They requested a number of rulings that required the Range Master to come to the stage, whether concerning a target ruling or calibration request. Regardless of how your day turned out, they deserve the respect that after-shooting attendance provides.
There are probably 20 other points I'm not thinking about yet, but they all stem from the categories above. Plan for the elements, stay hydrated, make sure your batteries work for your electronic ear protection, don't use a gun bag you were given in a golf tournament 20 years ago (because the handles will break), take the snacks out of the car BEFORE you start, etc. Recognition of these and others I think of as time goes by will hopefully not only make me a better shooter, but a better participant. One day, maybe I will learn enough so I can help others like I was helped yesterday.
I truly enjoyed everything about the day and, because of the excellent experience every one provided, I can't wait to get out there again and fix some of the mistakes I made.
Spencer....that glock candy bar looks delicious..I didn't know they even made candy!
Taping targets under bags sucks but at least we got to shoot. Great job to the match staff and stage setup and design fellas..fun match, even in the mud and the rain
Thankfully I found my front sight on the 10th stage...cause it sure seemed like it was missing on the other 9.
Thank you to the other shooters on squad 3, great working squad even being shorthanded all day in the muck. Hensy, did an excellent job as our RO and I appreciate it
I'll be looking forward to the next one
Taping targets under bags sucks but at least we got to shoot. Great job to the match staff and stage setup and design fellas..fun match, even in the mud and the rain
Thankfully I found my front sight on the 10th stage...cause it sure seemed like it was missing on the other 9.
Thank you to the other shooters on squad 3, great working squad even being shorthanded all day in the muck. Hensy, did an excellent job as our RO and I appreciate it
I'll be looking forward to the next one
Jerryinokc
Fanatic
Steve, I agree. I ordered these today:Steve McGinley said:The conditions got me a new pair of tennis shoes
Seriously, I need to take a look of some other type of shoes for this kind of weather and muddy conditions.
http://www.muckbootsandshoes.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=37
Jerry, you were a perfect addition to the squad & a class act. Thanks for the effort you put in to being a great squad member. Feegee & I were both happy to help with any questions you had & I'm pretty sure the rest of your squad was fine with it as well. They were a really great group of guys.
ChrisC
Revolver Division
I have shot USPSA for 15 years and I have been a range officer for just over a year. I decided even though this wasn't the divisions I shoot I would attend and be a range officer for the match. This was my first attempt at being a range officer for a match other than the level 1's. First and foremost, huge thanks to Rob Elston for sticking around and helping me with squad 6. I would also like to thank the gentlemen on my squad, they worked their asses off because we were only 6 deep, We all joked many of times about dqing everybody and going home.
Thank you to Mike Pinto and Greg Goode for putting the work in. No matter what went right and what went wrong without these two guys the match wouldn't have happened. I hope everyone takes the time to let these guys know we appreciate their work. Hopefully we, as a section, build on what we learned here and make the 2015 match bigger and better.
The shirts looked great, hopefully the red mud stains will come out of it. The trophies were a work of art... apparently I even won one. (Tony I will be in OKC for ICORE if I can get it then that would be outstanding) The hot lunch was also a welcome addition and outstanding.
My request to the shooters.... we need more people to step up and help out. I honestly did very little other than RO a squad. I live 2 hours away and it is difficult to drive in and help do much else from so far away. We definitely need more range officers. 2 per squad should be the minimum, 2 per stage would be ideal. the only way that's going to happen is if people step up, take the RO course, and volunteer their time.
Thank you to Mike Pinto and Greg Goode for putting the work in. No matter what went right and what went wrong without these two guys the match wouldn't have happened. I hope everyone takes the time to let these guys know we appreciate their work. Hopefully we, as a section, build on what we learned here and make the 2015 match bigger and better.
The shirts looked great, hopefully the red mud stains will come out of it. The trophies were a work of art... apparently I even won one. (Tony I will be in OKC for ICORE if I can get it then that would be outstanding) The hot lunch was also a welcome addition and outstanding.
My request to the shooters.... we need more people to step up and help out. I honestly did very little other than RO a squad. I live 2 hours away and it is difficult to drive in and help do much else from so far away. We definitely need more range officers. 2 per squad should be the minimum, 2 per stage would be ideal. the only way that's going to happen is if people step up, take the RO course, and volunteer their time.
Matt1911
Cyrwus Jr.
I wouldn't mind helping to r.o. on Saturdays or Sunday's. Getting off work on a Friday to shoot the match isn't the easiest thing to do though.
Troy
Well-Known Fanatic
That was a great match, I just wish I could have done it with more than 4 hours of sleep. I want to thank Mike Pinto and Greg Goode for setting it up and making it happen, that was my first big match since I have started shooting. I have shot enough 3-gun matches that Mike put together so I know he like to makes stages challenging, but to bring in the rain like Mike did brought it up to a whole new level of challenging. I can't wait to do it again next year, but Mike, we might need to talk about holding back the rain. Either way though, this match will be one tell tell the grand kids about, but it will have to be somebody else's grand kids, because I know I'm not having any.
