International Multi-Gun Rules Question - Shotgun Mag Tube Length

[Chambers]

It really depends on stage design. Most major matches don't design arrays that bone the shooters w/ 8 round tubes, but the extended tube gives you a lot of options...

 

[jtischauser]

It really depends on stage design. Most major matches don't design arrays that bone the shooters w/ 8 round tubes, but the extended tube gives you a lot of options...

That is exactly right. The really long tube is a tool just like a set of offset irons. Sometimes it can help you and sometimes it just adds weight to the gun.

I take my 12 round tube and my 10 round tube to every match. If I see that the longer tube might give me some extra flexibility and not hurt me in a tight spot like a stage with a bunch of in/out of ports I will run it. If not I go with the 10 rounder.

The beauty of a tube that holds 12 is that you can do a quick 3-5 second 4 round load into a tube with the divison limit 8 rounds already in it. You are not stuck trying to grab 1 or 2 to top off a 9 or 10 round tube. You grab 4 just like every other load.

The big 50+ round shotgun stage at Rocky Mountain 3 Gun was a great instance where I think the tube really helped me. I knew I would miss a few times on all of those moving clays so I simply kept stuffing shells in the gun everytime I moved. Each time I got to the next array I knew I had enough ammo and never had to think about anything but shooting.

I think just about everyone is in agreement now that only being able to hold 8+1 is a dissadvantage. Most guys run a 9 or 10 round tube now so that you always have room to stuff one extra in the gun right after the start.

 

[Burk Cornelius]

As long as we are on magazines and magazine extenstions, I will ask Uncle Kurt about the XRAIL system I saw being used by a couple of the FNH team at Superstition Mountain. Are those things going to take off or they a fad?

 

[Craig Westerman]

No safety issue with the "Michael R. Weidalich" target (one of the two main guys who put S.O.F. on when it was in Las Vegas, the other one was Michael Horn who you can thank for Kydex being used to make holsters). The problem was the bail on the back would break where it was welded on after a while and you needed a bunch as spares over the course of an entire match. However look for their return at the OKCGC if I can get hooked up with Range Master Rowdy. There was also a great ground plate designed by Michael R. that was the face plate of the droper, with no bail, and it sat on a round pipe section with a bent steel rod up the back, might see thos again as well. First year was 1979, last year was 2002 KurtM

Thanks Kurt, this is good stuff.

When was last year SOF match was in Vegas? When did you shoot your first SOF match and how did you do? Pictures?

 

[Wall]

Thanks Kurt, this is good stuff.

When was last year SOF match was in Vegas? When did you shoot your first SOF match and how did you do? Pictures?

they didn't have cameras back then

 

[KurtM]

Last year SOF was in Vegas, 2000, First time I went 1992 I was 25th and First Tyro won a Springfeild 1911 and an intergrally suppressed 10-22, which several board members have shot in it's various forms. I never succomed to the .223 fever and always shot a M-14, a 7 round single stack, and a Benelli 121M1 (untill 95, then I switched to the cammo M1 Super 90 that is like my trade mark). After the first year, I was never out of the top 10 and my best finish was 3rd right behind Bruce Piatt, and Benny Cooley who are now real good friends of mine.

Quick story Jim Wall, who was running Milt Sparks Holsters for his father in law, Showed up in 1997 wiht a 1911 wiht NO SIGHTS!! Just a bare slide!! and finished 9th over all. He also ran a cool Browning Auto-5 shotugn. I miss my buddy Jim, but he is off raising kids and taking care of his wife.

 

[benjamin-benjamin]

wow no sights and still placed 9th that is amazing..

 

[Wall]

Quick story Jim Wall, who was running Milt Sparks Holsters for his father in law, Showed up in 1997 wiht a 1911 wiht NO SIGHTS!! Just a bare slide!! and finished 9th over all. He also ran a cool Browning Auto-5 shotugn. I miss my buddy Jim, but he is off raising kids and taking care of his wife.

Jim Wall is my Dad.
Not the same Jim Wall but yeah, that was my Dad's name