Bushnell ELITE 1-6.5X scopes

KurtM

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I am no kind of "product reviewer" but I have had a quite a bit of time behind one of these scopes now. Mine is the First Focal Plain, these were the first ones to come out so that is what I have. The one I have is a BTR-1. You will have to go to bushnell.com and look the reticle up cause I don't have a way to post it from here.

First the likes. The scope is amazingly clear, it is as good as My Swarovski Z6I. The reticle is as close to perfect in a 3-gun scope as I have ever seen. Run it with a 250 yard zero and all the subsequent cross hairs line up all the way down to 800 yards.....think of it as a TA-11 reticle without the doughnut and just the 2 M.O.A. inner dot. For the zero ...top of the dot is 200 yards, bottom of the dot is 300 yards and then just go to the cross hairs as you progress down for each 100 yards....BUT WAIT!!!! the crosshairs are really inverted Ts so the tip of the inverted T is your 50 yard increment! so your 350 yard zero is the tip of the inverterd T for your 400 yard zero.

It is daylight visible in the illumination department, but not quite as bright as a Swaro...it is akin to a Meopta. It has TWO night Vision settings which work GREAT with any N.O.D.s so Hog hunting at night with a AN/PVS-14 or the like is GREAT!! Way better than the Swaro!.....In this department.

The adjustments are absolutely right on, and I have done a "box drill" and also used a ballistic program and the clicks are just about as close as anything I have used....,1 click = .1 Mil or .34 M.O.A.

The adjustment knobs are easily resettable to zero and are CAPPED so you never have to worry about it "self adjusting" dragging it in and out of a bag, like some of the other optics with exposed "target knobs". Besides once you have it set, you don't need to be a "twist weeny" as the BDC works GREAT!!!

It takes a common battery that you can find at wal-mart, unlike the older Meopta.


Dislikes! and there aren"t many!! the "big circle" around most of the reticle is too close around the 500 yard mark. it is hard to do wind hold off past about 3 mils/ 4 M.O.A as the circle is in the way. ON 6.5X you have to be fairly consistent in head palcement or your reticle will fuzz a bit, or the target will "fuzz" a bit....but it doesn't seem to affect accuracy. The Swaro is much more forgiving! I will say this, I was always able to hit the target even out to 700 yards even if everything wasn't quite what i would like for focus...but it is a bit strange. I really don't like First Focal Plain Scopes....I have a second focal plain on the way....but I don't like the reticle getting sooooo small I can't see the middle. (in it's defence, on 1X it was real easy to hit a C zone sized target at 300 by putting the lit reticle in the middle of it). On 1X it is fairly easy to see the reticle against a cardboard target, but if the target is a bit on the dark side the reticle disappears, unless illuminated. It is kind of heavy, but that is the price you pay for having something BULLET PROOF! It s built hell for stout, with a one piece tube machined out of solid aluminum!

Many thanks are requiered for My Red Neck Tactical partner Trapr Swonson for figuring out all the M.O.A drops and subtentions, or I would still be slinging bullets trying to figure out what all the lines mean! In general....It is well worth the $1000.00 you see them for on SWAFA or OPTICS PLANET. I was so impressded I decided to shoot for them! Kurt
 
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This one is gonna be a winner at that price.

They dont let optics in irons now do they? Do they have a 1x model or are you gonna just offset the scope at 45 and use it for CQB and run the Iron's long range?
 
Awesome! Thanks Kurt for taking the time to do this write up. I've been looking for an alternative to my TR24's and I'll keep this one in mind!
 
See? even though you are the Mayor you still don't know what is going on in your city! Maybe that,s cause it isn't out on facebook yet!
 
Kurt how does the wider magnification ratio work out? I know that once upon a time Bushnell only went to 3 or 4 multiple on the magnification. Hence 3X9: 3x3=9x max magnification or 4X16: 4x4=16X max.

Hope I made sense there, but I know what I mean! :crazy:

I'm really thinking about one of these, I've been a fan of Bushnells Elite glass for awhile now. I like my reticles simple but I can probably deal with these.
 
Tinkered with it a bit, I really dig the reticle as well.

Dislikes! and there aren"t many!! the "big circle" around most of the reticle is too close around the 500 yard mark. it is hard to do wind hold off past about 3 mils/ 4 M.O.A as the circle is in the way.

4 MOA is a whole helluva lot of wind. Wouldn't consider it much of an issue.
 
Scott, I must admit that I have no idea what you mean, but in the Elite line they have a 3.5-21X...but I hardly see where that comes in to the 1-6.5X scope. Just my short coming not yours.
 
I'm referring to the magnification multiple of the lowest setting. 3.5-21X is a multiple of 6. Used to be they maxed at 3 in the Elite 3200 and 4 in the 4200 series, hence the higher price. I think it's supposed to be harder to maintain image brightness and clarity with a real high multiple. Is it still a nice clear image at max magnification? I'm betting it is and that their lense grinding techique has advanced to get that high of a multiple. It's been awhile since I looked at their product line.
 
I have the Elite 6500 2.5-16x, it's been out for a couple years. I think GlocktoGo has one too. I don't know how it compares to the 1-6.5x, or the Swaro and other super high end scopes, but I got a smokin' deal on it, and couldn't pass. A friend of mine said that while by no means equal to his Nightforce or Bushnell HD, it's pretty nice especially considering the price point.

I was hoping the 1-6.5x SFP would come out a couple hundred cheaper than the FFP model.
 
I have the Elite 6500 2.5-16x, it's been out for a couple years. I think GlocktoGo has one too. I don't know how it compares to the 1-6.5x, or the Swaro and other super high end scopes, but I got a smokin' deal on it, and couldn't pass. A friend of mine said that while by no means equal to his Nightforce or Bushnell HD, it's pretty nice especially considering the price point.

I was hoping the 1-6.5x SFP would come out a couple hundred cheaper than the FFP model.

This is what my impression has been for a long time. The 4200 series seems to me to be every bit as good as a Leupold IV for a good bit less change. And Bushnell always has a blowout sale it seems every year. I got my 1.25X4 4200 with illuminated German #4 for $279 brand spanking new. IRRC it's retail was $569. I figure I got my scope AND a Larue mount for about what a Leupy would run on sale. Not a dig on Leupold as they are great scopes, just a little pricey for what you get IMO. If Bushnell wasn't around I'd probably be running a Leupold or Trijicon.
 
Can somebody explain the 1st Focal Plane (FFP) vs 2nd Focal Plane (SFP)? Or just correct me if I'm wrong. On the FFP scopes the reticle is accurate at all distances whereas a SFP the reticle is only accurate at Max magnification?

If my understanding is correct why would anyone need a reticle To be accurate on anything other than full magnification when using a low power magnification scope such as 6.5X? I can see where it might be handy at 12X or 20X rather than 25X. But I never shoot using my reticle past 200. Once I go past 200 I crank it up to full magnification.
 
With a FFP, the reticle magnifies with the target or in other words it stays the same size relative to the target as you go up or down in mag so your drops stay the same according to your reticle. With a SFP the reticle size appears to stay exactly the same size no matter what mag you're on and you have to be at a certain magnification (not always max) for the reticle size to corresponds to your drops.
 
With a FFP, the reticle magnifies with the target or in other words it stays the same size relative to the target as you go up or down in mag so your drops stay the same according to your reticle. With a SFP the reticle size appears to stay exactly the same size no matter what mag you're on and you have to be at a certain magnification (not always max) for the reticle size to corresponds to your drops.

So my understanding and/or crappy explanation was correct?
 
Thanks for the review! I got to look at Trip Ingvale's on the long range stage at the LaRue match. Unfortunately, there were RO's downrange, so I didn't get to get a good idea of how it looked downrange when shouldered but I was impressed with what I saw. The reticle was nice and not too busy.
 
Great review Kurt. Sounds like it will be giving some of the other scopes a run for the money.
 
I was hoping the 1-6.5x SFP would come out a couple hundred cheaper than the FFP model.
You and me both. I got to play with this scope at SHOT Show and I really liked this one. Visited the Bushnell Factory outlet store in Olathe Ks and was hoping they had some demos on close out. No such luck yet. But when they do, I will let every one know.
 
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