Shotgun Loading Help

I can load great at home but it seems I get in a hurry during a match and I end up with most of the rounds anywhere but the mag tube! when I seem like my loads are slow my times are faster so I'm guessing smooth is better. Later,

Kirk
 
Bigger the better, tigter the sweater - that is good and I always liked that saying :)
just couldn't help it.

We all know if one attempts to go faster than they should they bobble and are not smooth/accurate. Slow a tick or two and things smooth out and over all the times and scores are usally better.

I want folks to go slow lol.

Lastly that and the correct change for a cup of cooffee will get you a cup of coffee :)
 
Chambers said:
So by the transitive property, slow = fast?

Never liked that saying.
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Understandable. Its directed ttwords training. you train slow not pushing for speed but smoothness (muscle memory takes effect after 5000 or so repitions) onceyou have it trained smooth you pick up the pace. This is your new slow. Train it till its smooth.and so on. It eliminates the jerky trying to outrun yourself motions that cuase you to (in this case) fumble your reload or just the few split seconds during the reload because of a jerky movement.
 
If your technique is perfect you can't go fast enough. You should be focusing on technique, not speed/time.

Anyway, I don't like it. That's all. :onthequiet:
 
I'm no shotgun master like yourself, but the only problem I see, and it's been mentioned, is looking away from the loading port. Much like doing a mag reload, remember the TDSA song, "look, seat, flip, stick." You're not looking at the port, but down at your caddie? like you're wanting to get a hold of the shells as fast as you can. Flip it around ;)
 
Well, if you can't load your shotgun without looking at it you are already on the wrong path. I usually practice at least half my loadiong drills blind folded, and NO I am not kidding. Untill you can do it eyes off you will never be fast nor smooth. I do this with my pistol and rifle mag changes as well.

More to the point...your index finger is too straight, you aren't curling you hand around the shells, you are not indexing to the receiver the same each time and you are not consistent on how high or low you are dropping the gun. Does it matter?? at those speeds it may not, but to build consistency it does.

The "fastest" shotgun reload standing still is just a dick measuring ploy that has gained much notoriety as of late, on the good old inter-web, and while it looks cool it really tells us nothing about how well it works under movement, time stress in front of shooting peers, and loading from awkward positions, that is where consistency shines, so eye off, build a good base and then practice in any position or mannor that IS NOT SEDENTARY!
 
KurtM said:
Well, if you can't load your shotgun without looking at it you are already on the wrong path. I usually practice at least half my loadiong drills blind folded, and NO I am not kidding. Untill you can do it eyes off you will never be fast nor smooth. I do this with my pistol and rifle mag changes as well.

More to the point...your index finger is too straight, you aren't curling you hand around the shells, you are not indexing to the receiver the same each time and you are not consistent on how high or low you are dropping the gun. Does it matter?? at those speeds it may not, but to build consistency it does.

The "fastest" shotgun reload standing still is just a dick measuring ploy that has gained much notoriety as of late, on the good old inter-web, and while it looks cool it really tells us nothing about how well it works under movement, time stress in front of shooting peers, and loading from awkward positions, that is where consistency shines, so eye off, build a good base and then practice in any position or mannor that IS NOT SEDENTARY!
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Agree once you have the muscle memory (what a term) down. I feel if one is still fumbling or moving the shotgun away from the shells then one needs to look to see what is going on. Once they have consistency it wont be as much of an issue though it could be the difference between a fumble once in a blue moon if you don't look and it shouldn't hurt if you do look. I prefer to pad the odds because I screw up enough without forcing the issue.

I agree in reference to loading while static and have mentioned it doesn't matter what you do warmed up. It matters what you can do cold, tired , sweaty etc.

I respect your wisdom though I don't see how looking the shells in as a bad thing when it really only takes a glance or two and not total concentration.

Now please be gentle :)
 
A glance now and then is fine, but lets look at this from a "pistol mag change" as someone mentioned. With the good old "short gun" it is a one time event, old mag out, new mag in, up, look, press.....cool. Well this here scatter gun has 8 of those going on. Imagine you are running like a fool throught the woods, trying to keep from tripping on stuff, trying to find a few targets to shoot, and not breaking the 180. Now stare at your pistol's mag well while doing 8 reloads!! in a row. I bet you would trip, skip targets and be lucky not to break the 180 and go home, OR you will be SLOW!! while doing it! If you can do it eyes off you will be faster, not trip and not skip, but I really would prefer all you guys stare at your carriers and stare at the loading port if I'm shooting against you. :sarcastichand:
 
I know Jesse started this thread looking for tips, but I'm watching his video trying to learn. Ha!!!
 
I'll admit it I was bragging since it was the fastest I have ever loaded my gun. The suggests everyone has given are great though as I am far from perfect!
 
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