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Thanks Steve. I don't have a lot of respect for the present and many past regimes but I do respect our flag as a symbol of the ideals and ideas it stands for.

Dave
 
Frost said:
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If he is intoxicated I will take a triple shot of whatever he is drinking!
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Last I heard it wasn't illegal in America to sit out on your own porch on your own property and have yourself a drink. Sounds more like the man is grateful to God and country to be able to live a relatively peaceful existence. Plenty of people have it worse out there...

a very nice post indeed, thanks for putting things in perspective fordnut! 8-)
 
I think he said he was proud of the neighbor's kid for being a hired killer that gets paid with the fruits of other's labors without their consent.

The flag doesn't represent anything but involuntary government to me.

The guy in the video sounds indoctrinated to me.
 
carsontech said:
I think he said he was proud of the neighbor's kid for being a hired killer that gets paid with the fruits of other's labors without their consent.

The flag doesn't represent anything but involuntary government to me.

The guy in the video sounds indoctrinated to me.
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carsontech said:
I think he said he was proud of the neighbor's kid for being a hired killer that gets paid with the fruits of other's labors without their consent.

The flag doesn't represent anything but involuntary government to me.

The guy in the video sounds indoctrinated to me.
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In your video, Carlin says he doesn't understand pride in things not attained by achievement. I guess you didn't notice the American Legion or VFW (can't tell which) cap folded over the other guy's leg, indicating past military service. If I recall correctly, one is not born into the military, it's an organization where personal achievement is possible, encouraged, and essential. More importantly, when it comes down to it, the military is not about politics but those on either side of you.

Since you were involuntarily born into a country full of "hired killers", how about voluntarily relocate? You say being in the military and being paid with tax monies borne of others' labor like those in the military don't pay taxes either. In effect, paying parts of their own salaries. Even in "tax free" combat zones, our pay is still taxed. The government gives it back a few days later, AFTER having earned interest on it, I'm sure.

Calling people in the military "hired killers" is so far from accurate on many levels and without a doubt you knew it was an insult on par with a low blow. In all likelihood, probably less than 1% of people in the military actually ever kill anyone in the course of duty, and you say it like those who do have to commit that act do so without an emotional or psychological toll. Not to mention that phrase instantly brings forth images in the minds of military and civilians alike, of protestors spitting on soldiers in airports, from Vietnam to present day.

Bottom line, your involuntary government and the hired killers they employ maintain your God Given right to spew forth that nonsense rolling around in your head, and prevent others from taking it away from you. I'm far more inclined to respect the fact that other people have differing opinions if they had first hand experience involving the that which they denounce so vehemently.
 
well spoken,

there are several specific "soldiers", not prospective terrorist as pelosi called them, that i am proud of.

im gonna stop there.
 
I really didn't think I was going to start a war on here just over a video...I thought it was a good video.

I didn't think the guy was a DRUNK...I didn't think he was a WAR MONGER...I just thought he had a few thing to say that I believed in...

Sorry if I pissed on any of you's parade...

Any more problems and I will have to lock this down...


Steve
 
fordnut said:
I really didn't think I was going to start a war on here just over a video...I thought it was a good video.

I didn't think the guy was a DRUNK...I didn't think he was a WAR MONGER...I just thought he had a few thing to say that I believed in...

Sorry if I pissed on any of you's parade...

Any more problems and I will have to lock this down...


Steve
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It is a good video and it generated discussion on a discussion forum. If it was your intent to post a video and not have people comment on it then you should have locked it immediately upon the original post.

Where's the beef?

 
11B3XCIB said:
carsontech said:
I think he said he was proud of the neighbor's kid for being a hired killer that gets paid with the fruits of other's labors without their consent.

The flag doesn't represent anything but involuntary government to me.

The guy in the video sounds indoctrinated to me.
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In your video, Carlin says he doesn't understand pride in things not attained by achievement. I guess you didn't notice the American Legion or VFW (can't tell which) cap folded over the other guy's leg, indicating past military service. If I recall correctly, one is not born into the military, it's an organization where personal achievement is possible, encouraged, and essential. More importantly, when it comes down to it, the military is not about politics but those on either side of you.

Since you were involuntarily born into a country full of "hired killers", how about voluntarily relocate? You say being in the military and being paid with tax monies borne of others' labor like those in the military don't pay taxes either. In effect, paying parts of their own salaries. Even in "tax free" combat zones, our pay is still taxed. The government gives it back a few days later, AFTER having earned interest on it, I'm sure.

Calling people in the military "hired killers" is so far from accurate on many levels and without a doubt you knew it was an insult on par with a low blow. In all likelihood, probably less than 1% of people in the military actually ever kill anyone in the course of duty, and you say it like those who do have to commit that act do so without an emotional or psychological toll. Not to mention that phrase instantly brings forth images in the minds of military and civilians alike, of protestors spitting on soldiers in airports, from Vietnam to present day.

Bottom line, your involuntary government and the hired killers they employ maintain your God Given right to spew forth that nonsense rolling around in your head, and prevent others from taking it away from you. I'm far more inclined to respect the fact that other people have differing opinions if they had first hand experience involving the that which they denounce so vehemently.
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I disagree with almost everything you said, especially about the government and military protecting my "God Given rights". Is there a God to give rights? Don't know, don't care. "Rights" are just a made up concept anyway.

There are more people who post on this forum that think similarly to the way I do, but they probably don't want come out and speak their mind because they might think it is a lost cause, or bad timing.

Sorry if I come off as condescending, just speaking my mind and all. The tone in my voice doesn't come out very well in my posts. Interwebs, ya know? :mrgreen:
 
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