Off season rifle training ideas?

Bob Sanders

Bob Sanders

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Here's my problem, I have real problems holding my sight picture with my scope. It is worse after I have to run, but still unacceptable even starting out. At first, I thought it was just physical fitness, but I've been exercising fairly vigorously for a while now. It may be buzzer excitment, or just the awkward firing positions in 3 gun. I'm still learning hold-overs, but I have to be able to hold the hold-over, too. Dry fire help my pistol shooting tremendously, but I'm not sure how to incorporate rifle into practice. This is extremely frustrating, as I was pretty adept at high power with iron sights, and considered myself a better than fair marksman.

The only thing I can think of, is rig up a shooting stand, with several awkward positions, and dry-fire. Then progress to getting a bit winded, and dry-firing.

Any other ideas?
 
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Jesse Tischauser said:
What type of shooting positions are giving you the wobbles?
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Worst to best: sitting kneeling standing prone. But mostly it depends on my support structure. It's also those "inbetween" positions that are killing me, where you cannot stand all the way up and still too high to kneel. Sideways killed me, but that is just a practice and hold-over thing. I only have the problem at 4X, so it may just be a practice issue too.
 
Prone is good, not familiar with the reverse kneeling. The positions I have used the most, before 3 gun, were standing offhand, cross leg sitting, and prone. Except for offhand, I was always slung up and very stable.
 
Watch this video. I'm pretty sure Jerry showed them how to shoot rifles. They explain reverse kneeling. It's the most common rifle shooting position in 3 Gun.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6a6BYe7y1g&sns=em
 
I have been pondering this off season training as well as seasonal training idea.

My thoughts are what kind of circuit training can I put together incorporating the different shooting sports. When I come up with a routine I will post it on BS.

What helps me with rifle is free standing I dry fire my 14 lb precision rifle, I aim across the room into a mirror and back at my eye, when I pull the trigger I hold my cheek weld work the bolt and repeat, I only count the shot if it would have hit my eye, from 26 ft I can repeat 15-30 times from 32 ft 10-20 times. It gets heavy. After doing this when I grab the old rem 30/06 I feel like I can easily hold it on target the rifle feels light and nimble. When I first got this rifle I thought there is no way in hell I could hold it up long enough to shoot over a hundred yds at a deer.

After doing the above with the precision rifle live fire I can go 5 for 5 at 100yds on a 12x12 inch metal plate, at 200 yds I can only get 2-3 out of 5 at the same size target this is with a 2-5 mph wind. All 5 shots are fired free standing without breaking the cheek weld.

Doing the above dry fire drill with my AR just does nothing for me, with AR I might set par time and go from low ready seeing how fast I can break the first shot.

The other in the house drill is dry firing at a small target (target is 1/4 inch or smaller) on the wall using the vacuum as a support, I also do this with the precision rifle, the vacuum is an upright and is very unsteady, between the unsteadiness of the vacuum combined with crouching down I find this more difficult to get on target than free standing.

If a 3 gun match is coming up at the range I will randomly set up several points 5-6 and dry fire at the pistol targets or whatever steel I have hanging I engage each target at each point. I do this with a par time I go one way and return the other way. What I work on is what is the fastest way to get on target as I enter the box. I may do this half a dozen times only breaking long enough to reset the par time, this gets my heart rate up and I have to work harder to make the par time.

Recently I bought a pair of tac-lite 5.11 pants and really like them, the problem I was having was when shooting a match in my hunting pants or levis I felt like I was going to rip the crotch out from the ackward shooting positions.

This is what works for me I hope it helps.
 
Cory brings up an interesting point. My rifle feels really light. I did similar drills with a national match M14. It was about a 14 pound rifle too. I remember staging shooters at the ProAm this year and thinking some of their rifles were like anchors. I'm going to practice positions, and try to determine if it me or if I need a little weight to stabilize my rifle. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk

After finally getting to see the video, on point is abundantly clear. 3 points of contact! Except for prone, I cannot think of a single stage last match that I built 3 points of contact, and I probably could have.
 
Sounds like my problem, need to work on breathing. Check it out and see if when you get into those positions if all of a sudden you hold your breath???? I picked up on it when I about passed out one day lol not saying that's your issue but check the breathing thing out. Later,

Kirk
 
Good thing you live in Kentucky, Kirt has a way of pissing me off he always starts out by saying I haven't done this in for ever then he shows me up 60% of the time.
 
A couple years ago I had migraines and for a week joked around it being a tumor....... Well I jinxed myself
Now whenever I screwup and my wife starts yelling I blame the tumor
 
cajunautoxer said:
A couple years ago I had migraines and for a week joked around it being a tumor....... Well I jinxed myself
Now whenever I screwup and my wife starts yelling I blame the tumor
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[shadow='red']Never heard of a wife by the name of Tumor.[/shadow]
 
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