dennishoddy
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Season starts this Saturday, Oct 22-30.
I have 7 of the 9 days off.
Who's going, and what are you shooting?
I have 7 of the 9 days off.
Who's going, and what are you shooting?
Muzzleloader season is coming.
- Thread starter dennishoddy
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Dux-R-Us
Fear the Duck
Lyman Great Plains rifle I made last summer. .50 cap lock. I shoot a.490 patched round ball in front of 70 gr. FFG.
Alternatively I can shoot my TC Hawken 50 cal flinter with Green Mountain barrel, 1/60 twist.
I have also used the TC barrel 1/48 twist with the Maxi-Ball and 110 gr FFG. REsults on deer are very similar to shot gun slug. Lots of bang, recoil, and blood (sometimes my own).
Alternatively I can shoot my TC Hawken 50 cal flinter with Green Mountain barrel, 1/60 twist.
I have also used the TC barrel 1/48 twist with the Maxi-Ball and 110 gr FFG. REsults on deer are very similar to shot gun slug. Lots of bang, recoil, and blood (sometimes my own).
Dux-R-Us
Fear the Duck
Senor, y tu?
dennishoddy
Moderator
sefentress
Well-Known Fanatic
ML season has been open in S E Oklahoma since Jan 1 and does not close until dec 31
Sav 110 ML w smokeless powder & 250 Barnes @ 2575 fps
Sav 110 ML w smokeless powder & 250 Barnes @ 2575 fps
ML season has been open in S E Oklahoma since Jan 1 and does not close until dec 31
Sav 110 ML w smokeless powder & 250 Barnes @ 2575 fps
Are you advocating poaching? I don't get this reference.
Anyway, I'll be shooting a Remington 700ML with a Nikon BDC muzzleloader scope. I've got the 209 conversion but I use small rifle primers with the Variflame adapter. Much more consistent and less dirty than a 209. Also use loose powder which is more consistent than pellets. I can hit a golf ball consistently at 100 yards.
dennishoddy
Moderator
I couldn't post earlier, as I was on the cell and had too much to type.
Tenxer, I totally understand your post. I have friends in SE Ok. Poaching is rampant with everything from .22 rimfire to centerfires.
To stay on topic in this thread, I'll start another.
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Tenxer, I totally understand your post. I have friends in SE Ok. Poaching is rampant with everything from .22 rimfire to centerfires.
To stay on topic in this thread, I'll start another.
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dennishoddy
Moderator
For me, with limited resources in 82, the only gun I owned was a .410 single shot H&R. I knew nothing about rifling, twist, ballistics, nothing.
Al Gore had not invented the internet at that time.
Wanted to get into deer hunting, and the cheapest way was to buy a kit gun.
It was a TC Hawken .54 cal. Followed all directions, and took it out to shoot. It wouldn't hit a 4' target at 100 yds. It sounded like a helicopter with the buffalo bullet flying towards the target.
I did not know a single person in that day that used a MZ, but read a book about it. I tried different bullets, patches, powder, etc, and could never make it shoot.
Used it for several seasons, limiting myself to 30 yds or less.
I have subscribed to outdoor life forever, and saw an article in there about some guy named Tony Knight that was building an inline gun, and it was accurate!
I called the number, and we talked for an hour about why my POS Hawken would not shoot.
(it came down to using the wrong bullets in a twist that didn't support a long bullet, but would have worked with a round ball/patch.)
He offered an inline, the MK-85. He was still building them one at a time in his shop. I bought one. The warranty was 1 1/2" groups with a scoped rifle at 100 yds or he would replace the barrel. I still have a video of him tossing one, charged, into a pond, waiting an hour, and taking it out. It fired first time.
Killed a lot of deer with that MZ. We had a home burglury several years ago, and the MZ was one that came up missing.
(get rid of the gun cases, and get a dammed safe!)
I spent a lot of time online and found a wildcatters site that was dedicated to the Savage smokeless MZ, and have never looked back.
Bought one with a laminated stock, and Stainless Barrel. A true tack driver with a dime covering most of a 3 shot group. I'll post pics of it later. Iphone is getting an upgrade.....
It is still a one shot, loaded through the muzzle, like any other MZ.
Al Gore had not invented the internet at that time.
Wanted to get into deer hunting, and the cheapest way was to buy a kit gun.
It was a TC Hawken .54 cal. Followed all directions, and took it out to shoot. It wouldn't hit a 4' target at 100 yds. It sounded like a helicopter with the buffalo bullet flying towards the target.
I did not know a single person in that day that used a MZ, but read a book about it. I tried different bullets, patches, powder, etc, and could never make it shoot.
Used it for several seasons, limiting myself to 30 yds or less.
I have subscribed to outdoor life forever, and saw an article in there about some guy named Tony Knight that was building an inline gun, and it was accurate!
I called the number, and we talked for an hour about why my POS Hawken would not shoot.
(it came down to using the wrong bullets in a twist that didn't support a long bullet, but would have worked with a round ball/patch.)
He offered an inline, the MK-85. He was still building them one at a time in his shop. I bought one. The warranty was 1 1/2" groups with a scoped rifle at 100 yds or he would replace the barrel. I still have a video of him tossing one, charged, into a pond, waiting an hour, and taking it out. It fired first time.
Killed a lot of deer with that MZ. We had a home burglury several years ago, and the MZ was one that came up missing.
(get rid of the gun cases, and get a dammed safe!)
I spent a lot of time online and found a wildcatters site that was dedicated to the Savage smokeless MZ, and have never looked back.
Bought one with a laminated stock, and Stainless Barrel. A true tack driver with a dime covering most of a 3 shot group. I'll post pics of it later. Iphone is getting an upgrade.....
It is still a one shot, loaded through the muzzle, like any other MZ.
Dux-R-Us
Fear the Duck
Bullbuster
Fanatic
Just glad the ML laws here in OK are laxed as many states you can't use a scope, fiber optic iron site, in line or even 209 primer much less any of the new electric ignition or smokeless ML's.
