More Double talk from the BATFE

[Mike D]

On Sat, 2025-02-08 at 11:57 -0500, Michael Delaney wrote:

A panel of three judges took up the case and heard arguments. Mr. Peterson claimed that the NFA was unconstitutional, and suppressors were protected arms. Lawyers for the ATF claimed that suppressors were not arms at all. They said they were accessories that were afforded no Second Amendment protections.

If this isn't the NFA/BATFE admitting that silencers are NOT firearms, which they claim they are, when subject to licensing and a $200 stamp, what is it? I don't see how they can play BOTH sides of that fence

That was from an article this morning;
https://www.ammoland.com/2025/02/co...ail&utm_term=0_6f6fac3eaa-b1e1e08395-22304872

Apparently, they don't even attempt to hide their double speak any longer. According to the above article, they claim suppressors are NOT firearms, but in defense of their registration/stamp process, they claim the opposite.

 

[Bob Lee]

On Sat, 2025-02-08 at 11:57 -0500, Michael Delaney wrote:

That was from an article this morning;
https://www.ammoland.com/2025/02/co...ail&utm_term=0_6f6fac3eaa-b1e1e08395-22304872

Apparently, they don't even attempt to hide their double speak any longer. According to the above article, they claim suppressors are NOT firearms, but in defense of their registration/stamp process, they claim the opposite.

They are all corrupt and absolutely need to be disbanded, and never allowed to rise up again.

 

[dennishoddy]

A friend of mine went on an African Safari last year. You could buy a suppressor over the counter like a candy bar and walk away with it.
The prices were much cheaper than what we are paying in the US, made by the same companies, sold under the same names. The suppressor dealers are taking advantage of us.

 

[Bob Lee]

A friend of mine went on an African Safari last year. You could buy a suppressor over the counter like a candy bar and walk away with it.
The prices were much cheaper than what we are paying in the US, made by the same companies, sold under the same names. The suppressor dealers are taking advantage of us.

Now there's a surprise.

 

[CECannonJr]

Now there's a surprise.

Kind of like the pharmaceutical industry. As Americans, we are absolutely exploited.

I take a drug for diabetes. The Wal-mart pharmacy, no doubt in cahoots with my insurance company wants $180.00 for a 30 day supply.

I got online at a site that @Mike A told me about and ordered the same drug from another country @ $54.00 for a 6 month supply.

It's just wrong.

 

[Bob Lee]

Kind of like the pharmaceutical industry. As Americans, we are absolutely exploited.

I take a drug for diabetes. The Wal-mart pharmacy, no doubt in cahoots with my insurance company wants $180.00 for a 30 day supply.

I got online at a site that @Mike A told me about and ordered the same drug from another country @ $54.00 for a 6 month supply.

It's just wrong.

One of my gut meds is 357.00 for 90 days and no generic. It sucks. The entire cost is in the thousands!

 

[CECannonJr]

One of my gut meds is 357.00 for 90 days and no generic. It sucks. The entire cost is in the thousands!

You should try what Mike and I are using.

 

[Bob Lee]

You should try what Mike and I are using.

Thank you I'll look into that

 

[Mike D]

If I had to add up the cost of all of the med's I take daily, it would probably put me in the hospital. I have to be thankful that our Country still provides health care to disabled Vet's. I take about 12 pills a day, Heart, diabetes, nerve pain, diverticulitis, and anything else they can come up with from good ole agent orange exposure. If I had to cover all of those and health insurance, I'd be S.O.L. The V.A. might not be the best, but it keep this old Vet alive and shootin'. I feel for you guys!

 

[Bob Lee]

If I had to add up the cost of all of the med's I take daily, it would probably put me in the hospital. I have to be thankful that our Country still provides health care to disabled Vet's. I take about 12 pills a day, Heart, diabetes, nerve pain, diverticulitis, and anything else they can come up with from good ole agent orange exposure. If I had to cover all of those and health insurance, I'd be S.O.L. The V.A. might not be the best, but it keep this old Vet alive and shootin'. I feel for you guys!

Thank you for serving. I wish our govt took care of our vets as well as the do illegals, and other vermin

 

[CECannonJr]

Thank you I'll look into that

I just sent you a PM with some details.