fiundagner
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So last year the Indiana State Supreme Court ruled that law enforcement officers could enter your home with or without cause, no warrant or reason required. So this year they pass a law that says you can shoot law enforcement officers in your home illegally. The article is heavily slanted toward antigun sentiment based on the quotes, and i am sure this law will be used by the antis as a example of why we need more gun control.
http://presstv.com/usdetail/245679.html
a quick breakdown of the law
(i) A person is justified in using reasonable force against a public servant if the person reasonably believes the force is necessary to:
(1) protect the person or a third person from what the person reasonably believes to be the imminent use of unlawful force;
(2) prevent or terminate the public servant's unlawful entry of or attack on the person's dwelling or occupied motor vehicle; or
(3) prevent or terminate the public servant's unlawful trespass on or criminal interference with property lawfully in the person's possession, lawfully in possession of a member of the person's immediate family, or belonging to a person whose property the person has authority to protect.
I am quite frankly, divided on this. On one hand we have a spate of warrants served at wrong addresses, ?swatting?, cops threatening to execute suspects in cuffs, and family dogs killed because a cop couldn?t tell the difference between a border collie and a pit bull. This has begun to approach epidemic proportions. Frankly, law enforcement has, in several ways, gotten to big for its britches. In several of these incidents the wronged homeowners have been told, effectively, ?sorry, but it sucks to be you. You shouldn?t live near a crack house, shouldn?t have a similar address, shouldn?t own a dog, etc etc etc?. And frankly if they aren?t supposed to be in your home you should have the right to resist them whether they be criminal or cop. And this is coming from a cops son, and someone who believe in law enforcement and the justice system the way a Southern Baptist believes in god and fried chicken.
At the same time I see where this is going to make it more dangerous to be a law enforcement officer. People are going to use this law to justify shooting at LEO?s who are engaged in their correct procedures, drug dealers and gang members are going to think it?s ok to take random pot shots at cops, and your average domestic disturbance call danger level just got ratcheted up.
In the end scream as you will, but hear me out. I can only see this as a good thing. I know that the vast, overwhelming, majority of LEO?s just want to do what needs to be done. And I know that it is the mistakes that get all the news coverage (you?ll never see ?Cops did their jobs right? as a news headline). And I know that it is a few bad cops that make all cops look bad (you only have to be told once ?the law is what I say it is? to get a bad taste from all cops). But the few bad cops who overreach their authority, or believe they are exempt from the laws they seek to enforce, or who don?t take the time to do their jobs properly (really, is it that hard to make sure you have the right address on a warrant when you?re going door kicking, or to apologize when you get it wrong) have made laws such as this necessary.
Let the screaming commence.
PS: The next time you see a police officer think about the thankless, dangerous, and hard job they have and consider thanking them for it, because, at least in Indiana, it just got that much harder and more dangerous
http://presstv.com/usdetail/245679.html
a quick breakdown of the law
(i) A person is justified in using reasonable force against a public servant if the person reasonably believes the force is necessary to:
(1) protect the person or a third person from what the person reasonably believes to be the imminent use of unlawful force;
(2) prevent or terminate the public servant's unlawful entry of or attack on the person's dwelling or occupied motor vehicle; or
(3) prevent or terminate the public servant's unlawful trespass on or criminal interference with property lawfully in the person's possession, lawfully in possession of a member of the person's immediate family, or belonging to a person whose property the person has authority to protect.
I am quite frankly, divided on this. On one hand we have a spate of warrants served at wrong addresses, ?swatting?, cops threatening to execute suspects in cuffs, and family dogs killed because a cop couldn?t tell the difference between a border collie and a pit bull. This has begun to approach epidemic proportions. Frankly, law enforcement has, in several ways, gotten to big for its britches. In several of these incidents the wronged homeowners have been told, effectively, ?sorry, but it sucks to be you. You shouldn?t live near a crack house, shouldn?t have a similar address, shouldn?t own a dog, etc etc etc?. And frankly if they aren?t supposed to be in your home you should have the right to resist them whether they be criminal or cop. And this is coming from a cops son, and someone who believe in law enforcement and the justice system the way a Southern Baptist believes in god and fried chicken.
At the same time I see where this is going to make it more dangerous to be a law enforcement officer. People are going to use this law to justify shooting at LEO?s who are engaged in their correct procedures, drug dealers and gang members are going to think it?s ok to take random pot shots at cops, and your average domestic disturbance call danger level just got ratcheted up.
In the end scream as you will, but hear me out. I can only see this as a good thing. I know that the vast, overwhelming, majority of LEO?s just want to do what needs to be done. And I know that it is the mistakes that get all the news coverage (you?ll never see ?Cops did their jobs right? as a news headline). And I know that it is a few bad cops that make all cops look bad (you only have to be told once ?the law is what I say it is? to get a bad taste from all cops). But the few bad cops who overreach their authority, or believe they are exempt from the laws they seek to enforce, or who don?t take the time to do their jobs properly (really, is it that hard to make sure you have the right address on a warrant when you?re going door kicking, or to apologize when you get it wrong) have made laws such as this necessary.
Let the screaming commence.
PS: The next time you see a police officer think about the thankless, dangerous, and hard job they have and consider thanking them for it, because, at least in Indiana, it just got that much harder and more dangerous
