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"One new policy will end a government practice that lets military weapons, sold or donated by the U.S. to allies, be reimported into the U.S. by private entities. The White House said the U.S. has approved 250,000 of those guns to be reimported since 2005; under the new policy, only museums and a few other entities like the government will be eligible to reimport military-grade firearms. "

Thanks, Obama. Like they really use M1s in drive-by shootings. This will help curb gun violence...
 
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that is only half of the lamebrains presidential decree.

the second part will spell the end of NFA guns.

acording to him felons that work for corperations that have a trust, allowing employees to use the weapons on that trust, are using the trust to import illegal weapons into the US for criminal activity. now tell me that if i make a trust and put my son on it the BATFE wont check him out. its bull crap.

there are too many people that dont have a clue about NFA guns so it will be an easy sell to get rid of "machine guns". :evil:
 
The Obama administration is also proposing a federal rule to stop those who would be ineligible to pass a background check from skirting the law by registering certain guns, like machine guns and short-barreled shotguns, to a corporation or trust. The new rule would require people associated with those entities, like beneficiaries and trustees, to undergo the same type of fingerprint-based background checks as individuals if they want to register those types of guns.

"It's a very artful dodge to get around people who are not capable, constitutionally or legally, of owning a weapon," Biden said.

i dont believe it. anyone that puts a felon on a trust with ANY gun is a criminal. the felon knows he cant touch a gun. but we are supposed to believe, well most people will just follow along, that everyone put on a trust with an NFA gun is not checked out, background check. putting a gun in a felons hand is a crime.


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Obama Offers New Executive Actions On Gun Control


By JOSH LEDERMAN 08/29/13 01:08 PM ET EDT AP
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.WASHINGTON ? Striving to take action where Congress would not, the Obama administration announced new steps Thursday on gun control, curbing the import of military surplus weapons and proposing to close a little-known loophole that lets felons and others circumvent background checks by registering guns to corporations.

Four months after a gun control drive collapsed spectacularly in the Senate, President Barack Obama added two more executive actions to a list of 23 steps the White House determined Obama could take on his own to reduce gun violence. With the political world focused on Mideast tensions and looming fiscal battles, the move signaled Obama's intent to show he hasn't lost sight of the cause he took up after 20 first graders and six adults were gunned down last year in an elementary school in Newtown, Conn.

Vice President Joe Biden, Obama's point-man on gun control after the Newtown tragedy thrust guns into the national spotlight, unveiled the new actions Thursday at the White House.

"It's simple, it's straightforward, it's common sense," Biden said in the Roosevelt Room.

One new policy will end a government practice that lets military weapons, sold or donated by the U.S. to allies, be reimported into the U.S. by private entities, where some may end up on the streets. The White House said the U.S. has approved 250,000 of those guns to be reimported since 2005; under the new policy, only museums and a few other entities like the government will be eligible to reimport military-grade firearms.

The Obama administration is also proposing a federal rule to stop those who would be ineligible to pass a background check from skirting the law by registering certain guns, like machine guns and short-barreled shotguns, to a corporation or trust. The new rule would require people associated with those entities, like beneficiaries and trustees, to undergo the same type of fingerprint-based background checks as individuals if they want to register those types of guns.

"It's a very artful dodge to get around people who are not capable, constitutionally or legally, of owning a weapon," Biden said.

The National Rifle Association dismissed the administration's moves as misdirected, arguing that background checks for corporations and a ban on reimporting outdated guns wouldn't keep criminals from getting weapons.

"The Obama administration has once again completely missed the mark when it comes to stopping violent crime," said NRA spokesman Andrew Arulanandam. "This administration should get serious about prosecuting violent criminals who misuse guns and stop focusing its efforts on law-abiding gun owners."


Joined by Attorney General Eric Holder, Biden formally unveiled the new measures Thursday while swearing in Todd Jones, whose confirmation to head the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives after six years of political wrangling to fill that position was another of Obama's post-Newtown priorities. A Senate deal to approve the president's pending nominations after Democrats threatened to change Senate rules cleared the way for Jones' confirmation last month.

Still out of reach for Obama were the steps that gun control advocates and the administration's own review say could most effectively combat gun violence in the U.S., like an assault weapons ban and fewer exceptions for background checks for individual sales. Only Congress can act on those fronts.

There is scant evidence that support for gun control legislation has grown substantially since April, when efforts died in the Senate amid staunch opposition from the NRA and most Republican senators.

"Sooner or later, we are going to get this right," Obama said that day in the White House Rose Garden, with the families of Newtown victims and former Rep. Gabrielle Giffords ? herself a victim of a gunman ? at his side. "The memories of these children demand it, and so do the American people," the president said at the time.

In the months following the Senate vote, Biden has claimed that at a handful of lawmakers who opposed expanded background checks have told him privately they've changed their minds and want another chance. But Biden and White House officials have not named any of those lawmakers.

Renewing his pledge to keep working for legislative fixed, Biden suggested that one opportunity for improving prospects for gun control may come next year in the midterm elections. Liberal groups and those supporting gun control have vowed to hold accountable in 2014 those lawmakers who voted against gun control.

"If Congress won't act, we'll fight for a new Congress," Biden said. "It's that simple. But we're going to get this done."

These days, Obama and Biden mention gun control with far less regularity than when it appeared the Senate was poised to take action, although Obama did meet Tuesday with 18 city mayors to discuss ways to contain youth violence. And with immigration and pressing fiscal issues dominating Congress' agenda, the prospects for reviving gun legislation appear negligible.

With Jones' confirmation at ATF, the White House has completed or made significant progress on all but one of the 23 executive actions Obama had previously ordered in January, the White House said. Still lingering is an effort to finalize regulations to require insurers to cover mental health at parity with medical benefits, although the White House said that it is committed to making that happen by the end of 2013.

The new rules for guns registered to corporations will follow the traditional regulatory process, with a 90-day comment period before ATF reviews suggestions and finalizes the rule. It would only apply to certain types of guns that must be federally registered. Last year, ATF received 39,000 requests to register guns to corporations and trusts.

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Man...when's the next election!?! This stupidity is tiring and I need all the energy I can muster these days.

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Thank you.
 
That's a shame, a lot of the Korean-era M1s are in decent shape.

FWIW, I *do* have a WWII M1 for sale...

You know, I generally don't get all frothy at the mouth about the gun control noise (and with the state of the legislature today, I think it is just that) but it pisses me off that the gun-control crowd hammers us with sad statistics and then ignores the other ones... like, that very few crimes are committed with rifles of any sort. Heck, an M1 would be legal in NY state even now.

Also, if you have a gun trust, how are they going to 'background check' your beneficiaries, when they are minors? Perfectly normal and ordinary to have your kids as beneficiary of a trust, that they cannot take possession until otherwise allowed to own the trust assets.

I think the fingerprint rule for people associated with a trust is a smoke screen. Most people nowadays get the trust to prevent constructive possession by spouses and for estate planning, not to avoid the fingerprint or CLEO signature.
 
rotarymike said:
Also, if you have a gun trust, how are they going to 'background check' your beneficiaries, when they are minors? Perfectly normal and ordinary to have your kids as beneficiary of a trust, that they cannot take possession until otherwise allowed to own the trust assets.

I think the fingerprint rule for people associated with a trust is a smoke screen. Most people nowadays get the trust to prevent constructive possession by spouses and for estate planning, not to avoid the fingerprint or CLEO signature.

Simple. They'll simply put every Trustee in prison for ten years for violating the NFA, and the beneficiaries too.

They don't care about background checks. Heck, NFA items are registered by serial number, you need permission to move most of them from state to state, you need NICS checks... it is already a gun control wet dream. The hard core antigunners want you and your family dead or in prison. This is about petty revenge to punish gun owners for defying the agenda earlier this year. If a few families or small businesses get destroyed by the new regulations that is a feature for them, not a bug. The courts may eventually provide some protection because, as you point out, trusts and corps are pretty well known areas of law with lots of legal precedent for "normal" uses, but until the courts step in, NFA owners with kids (or others on the trust) would operate in a perilous legal grey area where they are subject to arrest, violent SWAT raid, face a 10 year prison sentence, etc.

The CLEO signature is fairly significant. Many people live in places where the CLEO refuses to sign. Notably, it probably really pisses off the members of MAIG (Bloomberg's group) that their subjects can obtain NFA items without permission (which is not granted, except to the political elite or well connected). My local CLEO hosts gun buybacks, and his boss (the mayor) is a member of MAIG who thinks civilian ownership of firearms should be illegal. I didn't even bother asking for permission, and just went right to a trust. It was less time consuming and less hassle.
 
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