H335 for .223
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scooterj
Well-Known Fanatic
24.5gr H335 and 55gr Dogstown JSP or Montana Gold JHP will group less than 1/2" out of my 20" Bushmaster 1:9 barrel.
Bevenue
Well-Known Fanatic
24.5gr of H335 pushing Hornady 55gr SP
uscbigdawg
Well-Known Fanatic
Pops (my Dad) loves his 25 gr of H335 with a 55gr. FMJ-BTHP (Winchester I think) and he swears that H335 and W748 are the same powder.
Rich
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Craig Westerman
Well-Known Fanatic
H335 with Hornady 55gr FMJBT tests you might find interesting.
Cartridge: 223 Rem
Powder: Hodgdon H335
Case: Lake City 89 - Once Fired
Case Length: 1.75
Primer: CCI #41
Bullet: 55gr Hornady FMJBT - w/canalure
OAL: 2.225 (case mouth roughly center of canalure)
Crimp: Very Light using Lee Factory Crimp Die
Firearm: Custom Rock River AR-15
Barrel Length: 16"
Barrel Details: 223 Wylde Chamber, Stainless Steel, 1 in 8 twist
Comp: Lund/SJC .223 Titan
Chrono Dist: 15 ft
Date: 9/4/2007
Time: 2:00 PM
Temp: 87-89
Bar Pres: 29.95
Rel Hum: 66%
Pdr Wt: 25.0 - 2988 fps - 10 shot average
Pdr Wt: 25.4 - 3009 fps - 10 shot average
Pdr Wt: 25.7 - 3045 fps - 10 shot average
Pdr Wt: 26.0 - 3107 fps - 10 shot average
Following shot same day, same conditions for reference.
Factory Win USA 55 gr FMJ - Lot HL42 - 3252 fps - 10 shot average
Factory Win USA 55 gr FMJ - Lot NM32 - 3177 fps - 10 shot average
Factory Fed XM193 55 gr FMJ - Lot 2 - 3267 fps - 10 shot average
Black Hills 77 gr HPBT - Red Box - 2685 fps - 10 shot average
Cartridge: 223 Rem
Powder: Hodgdon H335
Case: Lake City 89 - Once Fired
Case Length: 1.75
Primer: CCI #41
Bullet: 55gr Hornady FMJBT - w/canalure
OAL: 2.225 (case mouth roughly center of canalure)
Crimp: Very Light using Lee Factory Crimp Die
Firearm: Colt CAR-15 HBAR
Barrel Length: 16"
Barrel Details: 1 in 9 twist
Chrono Dist: 15 ft
Date: 9/4/2007
Time: 2:00 PM
Temp: 87-89
Bar Pres: 29.95
Rel Hum: 66%
Pdr Wt: 25.0 - 2947 fps - 10 shot average
Pdr Wt: 25.4 - 2995 fps - 10 shot average
Pdr Wt: 25.7 - 3029 fps - 10 shot average
Pdr Wt: 26.0 - 3065 fps - 10 shot average
Following shot same day, same conditions for reference.
Factory Win USA 55 gr FMJ - Lot HL42 - 3204 fps - 10 shot average
Factory Fed XM193 55 gr FMJ - Lot 2 - 3218 fps - 10 shot average
Black Hills 77 gr HPBT - Red Box - 2666 fps - 10 shot average
Various primers 26.0 gr H335
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Cartridge: 223 Rem
Powder: Hodgdon H335
Case: Lake City 89 - Once Fired
Case Length: 1.75
Bullet: 55gr Hornady FMJBT - w/canalure
OAL: 2.225 (case mouth roughly center of canalure)
Crimp: Very Light using Lee Factory Crimp Die
Firearm: Custom Rock River AR-15
Barrel Length: 16"
Barrel Details: 223 Wylde Chamber, Stainless Steel, 1 in 8 twist
Comp: Lund/SJC .223 Titan
Chrono Dist: 15 ft
Date: 9/18/2007
Time: 1:00 PM
Temp: 82-86
Bar Pres: 29.96
Rel Hum: 58%
Elevation: 1001 ft
Primer: CCI #41 Pdr Wt: 26.0 - 3102 fps - 10 shot average
Primer: Fed Match Pdr Wt: 26.0 - 3085 fps - 10 shot average
Primer: Win SR Pdr Wt: 26.0 - 3082 fps - 10 shot average
Primer: Rem BR Pdr Wt: 26.0 - 3083 fps - 10 shot average
Following shot same day, same conditions for reference.
Factory Win USA 55 gr FMJ - Lot HL42 - 3188 fps - 10 shot average
Factory Fed XM193 55 gr FMJ - Lot 2 - 3241 fps - 10 shot average
Various primers 26.0 gr H335
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Cartridge: 223 Rem
Powder: Hodgdon H335
Case: Lake City 89 - Once Fired
Case Length: 1.75
Bullet: 55gr Hornady FMJBT - w/canalure
OAL: 2.225 (case mouth roughly center of canalure)
Crimp: Very Light using Lee Factory Crimp Die
Firearm: Colt CAR-15 HBAR
Barrel Length: 16"
Barrel Details: 1 in 9 twist
Chrono Dist: 15 ft
Date: 9/18/2007
Time: 1:00 PM
Temp: 82-86
Bar Pres: 29.96
Rel Hum: 58%
Elevation: 1001 ft
Primer: CCI #41 Pdr Wt: 26.0 - 3075 fps - 10 shot average
Primer: Fed Match Pdr Wt: 26.0 - 3080 fps - 10 shot average
Primer: Win SR Pdr Wt: 26.0 - 3044 fps - 10 shot average
Primer: Rem BR Pdr Wt: 26.0 - 3073 fps - 10 shot average
Following shot same day, same conditions for reference.
Factory Win USA 55 gr FMJ - Lot HL42 - 3177 fps - 10 shot average
Factory Fed XM193 55 gr FMJ - Lot 2 - 3153 fps - 10 shot average
Various primers 26.2 gr H335
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Cartridge: 223 Rem
Powder: Hodgdon H335
Case: Lake City 89 - Once Fired
Case Length: 1.75
Bullet: 55gr Hornady FMJBT - w/canalure
OAL: 2.225 (case mouth roughly center of canalure)
Crimp: Very Light using Lee Factory Crimp Die
Firearm: Custom Rock River AR-15
Barrel Length: 16"
Barrel Details: 223 Wylde Chamber, Stainless Steel, 1 in 8 twist
Comp: Lund/SJC .223 Titan
Chrono Dist: 15 ft
Date: 9/18/2007
Time: 1:00 PM
Temp: 82-86
Bar Pres: 29.96
Rel Hum: 58%
Elevation: 1001 ft
Primer: CCI #41 Pdr Wt: 26.2 - 3156 fps - 10 shot average
Primer: Fed Match Pdr Wt: 26.2 - 3114 fps - 10 shot average
Primer: Rem BR Pdr Wt: 26.2 - 3114 fps - 10 shot average
Following shot same day, same conditions for reference.
Factory Win USA 55 gr FMJ - Lot HL42 - 3188 fps - 10 shot average
Factory Fed XM193 55 gr FMJ - Lot 2 - 3241 fps - 10 shot average
Various primers 26.2 gr H335
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Cartridge: 223 Rem
Powder: Hodgdon H335
Case: Lake City 89 - Once Fired
Case Length: 1.75
Bullet: 55gr Hornady FMJBT - w/canalure
OAL: 2.225 (case mouth roughly center of canalure)
Crimp: Very Light using Lee Factory Crimp Die
Firearm: Colt CAR-15 HBAR
Barrel Length: 16"
Barrel Details: 1 in 9 twist
Chrono Dist: 15 ft
Date: 9/18/2007
Time: 1:00 PM
Temp: 82-86
Bar Pres: 29.96
Rel Hum: 58%
Elevation: 1001 ft
Primer: CCI #41 Pdr Wt: 26.2 - 3107 fps - 10 shot average
Primer: Fed Match Pdr Wt: 26.2 - 3089 fps - 10 shot average
Primer: Rem BR Pdr Wt: 26.2 - 3093 fps - 10 shot average
Following shot same day, same conditions for reference.
Factory Win USA 55 gr FMJ - Lot HL42 - 3177 fps - 10 shot average
Factory Fed XM193 55 gr FMJ - Lot 2 - 3153 fps - 10 shot average
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Cartridge: 223 Rem
Powder: Hodgdon H335
Case: Lake City 89 - Once Fired
Case Length: 1.75
Primer: CCI #41
Bullet: 55gr Hornady FMJBT - w/canalure
OAL: 2.225 (case mouth roughly center of canalure)
Crimp: Very Light using Lee Factory Crimp Die
Firearm: Custom Rock River AR-15
Barrel Length: 16"
Barrel Details: 223 Wylde Chamber, Stainless Steel, 1 in 8 twist
Comp: Lund/SJC .223 Titan
Chrono Dist: 15 ft
Date: 9/4/2007
Time: 2:00 PM
Temp: 87-89
Bar Pres: 29.95
Rel Hum: 66%
Pdr Wt: 25.0 - 2988 fps - 10 shot average
Pdr Wt: 25.4 - 3009 fps - 10 shot average
Pdr Wt: 25.7 - 3045 fps - 10 shot average
Pdr Wt: 26.0 - 3107 fps - 10 shot average
Following shot same day, same conditions for reference.
Factory Win USA 55 gr FMJ - Lot HL42 - 3252 fps - 10 shot average
Factory Win USA 55 gr FMJ - Lot NM32 - 3177 fps - 10 shot average
Factory Fed XM193 55 gr FMJ - Lot 2 - 3267 fps - 10 shot average
Black Hills 77 gr HPBT - Red Box - 2685 fps - 10 shot average
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Cartridge: 223 Rem
Powder: Hodgdon H335
Case: Lake City 89 - Once Fired
Case Length: 1.75
Primer: CCI #41
Bullet: 55gr Hornady FMJBT - w/canalure
OAL: 2.225 (case mouth roughly center of canalure)
Crimp: Very Light using Lee Factory Crimp Die
Firearm: Colt CAR-15 HBAR
Barrel Length: 16"
Barrel Details: 1 in 9 twist
Chrono Dist: 15 ft
Date: 9/4/2007
Time: 2:00 PM
Temp: 87-89
Bar Pres: 29.95
Rel Hum: 66%
Pdr Wt: 25.0 - 2947 fps - 10 shot average
Pdr Wt: 25.4 - 2995 fps - 10 shot average
Pdr Wt: 25.7 - 3029 fps - 10 shot average
Pdr Wt: 26.0 - 3065 fps - 10 shot average
Following shot same day, same conditions for reference.
Factory Win USA 55 gr FMJ - Lot HL42 - 3204 fps - 10 shot average
Factory Fed XM193 55 gr FMJ - Lot 2 - 3218 fps - 10 shot average
Black Hills 77 gr HPBT - Red Box - 2666 fps - 10 shot average
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Various primers 26.0 gr H335
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Cartridge: 223 Rem
Powder: Hodgdon H335
Case: Lake City 89 - Once Fired
Case Length: 1.75
Bullet: 55gr Hornady FMJBT - w/canalure
OAL: 2.225 (case mouth roughly center of canalure)
Crimp: Very Light using Lee Factory Crimp Die
Firearm: Custom Rock River AR-15
Barrel Length: 16"
Barrel Details: 223 Wylde Chamber, Stainless Steel, 1 in 8 twist
Comp: Lund/SJC .223 Titan
Chrono Dist: 15 ft
Date: 9/18/2007
Time: 1:00 PM
Temp: 82-86
Bar Pres: 29.96
Rel Hum: 58%
Elevation: 1001 ft
Primer: CCI #41 Pdr Wt: 26.0 - 3102 fps - 10 shot average
Primer: Fed Match Pdr Wt: 26.0 - 3085 fps - 10 shot average
Primer: Win SR Pdr Wt: 26.0 - 3082 fps - 10 shot average
Primer: Rem BR Pdr Wt: 26.0 - 3083 fps - 10 shot average
Following shot same day, same conditions for reference.
Factory Win USA 55 gr FMJ - Lot HL42 - 3188 fps - 10 shot average
Factory Fed XM193 55 gr FMJ - Lot 2 - 3241 fps - 10 shot average
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Various primers 26.0 gr H335
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Cartridge: 223 Rem
Powder: Hodgdon H335
Case: Lake City 89 - Once Fired
Case Length: 1.75
Bullet: 55gr Hornady FMJBT - w/canalure
OAL: 2.225 (case mouth roughly center of canalure)
Crimp: Very Light using Lee Factory Crimp Die
Firearm: Colt CAR-15 HBAR
Barrel Length: 16"
Barrel Details: 1 in 9 twist
Chrono Dist: 15 ft
Date: 9/18/2007
Time: 1:00 PM
Temp: 82-86
Bar Pres: 29.96
Rel Hum: 58%
Elevation: 1001 ft
Primer: CCI #41 Pdr Wt: 26.0 - 3075 fps - 10 shot average
Primer: Fed Match Pdr Wt: 26.0 - 3080 fps - 10 shot average
Primer: Win SR Pdr Wt: 26.0 - 3044 fps - 10 shot average
Primer: Rem BR Pdr Wt: 26.0 - 3073 fps - 10 shot average
Following shot same day, same conditions for reference.
Factory Win USA 55 gr FMJ - Lot HL42 - 3177 fps - 10 shot average
Factory Fed XM193 55 gr FMJ - Lot 2 - 3153 fps - 10 shot average
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Various primers 26.2 gr H335
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Cartridge: 223 Rem
Powder: Hodgdon H335
Case: Lake City 89 - Once Fired
Case Length: 1.75
Bullet: 55gr Hornady FMJBT - w/canalure
OAL: 2.225 (case mouth roughly center of canalure)
Crimp: Very Light using Lee Factory Crimp Die
Firearm: Custom Rock River AR-15
Barrel Length: 16"
Barrel Details: 223 Wylde Chamber, Stainless Steel, 1 in 8 twist
Comp: Lund/SJC .223 Titan
Chrono Dist: 15 ft
Date: 9/18/2007
Time: 1:00 PM
Temp: 82-86
Bar Pres: 29.96
Rel Hum: 58%
Elevation: 1001 ft
Primer: CCI #41 Pdr Wt: 26.2 - 3156 fps - 10 shot average
Primer: Fed Match Pdr Wt: 26.2 - 3114 fps - 10 shot average
Primer: Rem BR Pdr Wt: 26.2 - 3114 fps - 10 shot average
Following shot same day, same conditions for reference.
Factory Win USA 55 gr FMJ - Lot HL42 - 3188 fps - 10 shot average
Factory Fed XM193 55 gr FMJ - Lot 2 - 3241 fps - 10 shot average
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Various primers 26.2 gr H335
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Cartridge: 223 Rem
Powder: Hodgdon H335
Case: Lake City 89 - Once Fired
Case Length: 1.75
Bullet: 55gr Hornady FMJBT - w/canalure
OAL: 2.225 (case mouth roughly center of canalure)
Crimp: Very Light using Lee Factory Crimp Die
Firearm: Colt CAR-15 HBAR
Barrel Length: 16"
Barrel Details: 1 in 9 twist
Chrono Dist: 15 ft
Date: 9/18/2007
Time: 1:00 PM
Temp: 82-86
Bar Pres: 29.96
Rel Hum: 58%
Elevation: 1001 ft
Primer: CCI #41 Pdr Wt: 26.2 - 3107 fps - 10 shot average
Primer: Fed Match Pdr Wt: 26.2 - 3089 fps - 10 shot average
Primer: Rem BR Pdr Wt: 26.2 - 3093 fps - 10 shot average
Following shot same day, same conditions for reference.
Factory Win USA 55 gr FMJ - Lot HL42 - 3177 fps - 10 shot average
Factory Fed XM193 55 gr FMJ - Lot 2 - 3153 fps - 10 shot average
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My old Hodgdon #25 load manual shows:
26" Barrel
H335 - 55gr bullet
Case unknown, Primer unknown
Starting Load 25.0 - 3011 fps - 36,600 CUP
Maximum Load 27.0 - 3281 fps - 48,200 CUP
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Hodgdon #27 load manual shows:
24" 1:12 Barrel
H335 - 55gr bullet
Case Winchester, Primer Winchester
Starting Load 23.0 - 3018 fps - 40,800 CUP
Maximum Load 25.3 - 3203 fps - 49,300 CUP
My old Hodgdon #25 load manual shows:
26" Barrel
H335 - 55gr bullet
Case unknown, Primer unknown
Starting Load 25.0 - 3011 fps - 36,600 CUP
Maximum Load 27.0 - 3281 fps - 48,200 CUP
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Hodgdon #27 load manual shows:
24" 1:12 Barrel
H335 - 55gr bullet
Case Winchester, Primer Winchester
Starting Load 23.0 - 3018 fps - 40,800 CUP
Maximum Load 25.3 - 3203 fps - 49,300 CUP
Craig Westerman
Well-Known Fanatic
H335 and W748 are NOT the same powder. BL-C(2) is closer to W748 in burn rate. Do NOT substitute H335 and W748 for each other. Could be very dangerous.
Burn Rate Chart http://www.reloadbench.com/burn.html
100. H322 (Hodgdon)
101. X-Terminator (Ramshot)
102. 2230 (Accurate)
103. 748 (Winchester)
104. Reloader 10X (Alliant)
105. BLC-2 (Hodgdon)
106. AR2206 (ADI)
107. 2460 (Accurate)
108. H335 (Hodgdon)
109. TAC (Ramshot)
110. H4895 (Hodgdon)
Sierra's load manual for the AR-15 shows:
Powder....2700...2800...2900...3000...3050...3100
748..........25.1....25.8....26.5
H335.......23.6.....24.3....25.0....25.7
See page 218
http://accurateshoot...sierra223ar.pdf
Oneshot
Fanatic
I tested 25.5 h335 vs 25.5 BLC-2 the BLC-2 grouped way better
mscott327
Active Fanatic
H335 24.5gr behind a 55gr Everglades ammo 223 round. chrono at 2899
Trimmed to 1.750 and OAL is 2.208-2.210
This is pretty much tuned to my gun and I shoot it out to 400.
Trimmed to 1.750 and OAL is 2.208-2.210
This is pretty much tuned to my gun and I shoot it out to 400.
