Does anybody work on Remmy 1100s?

runawaygun762 · Oct 22, 2014

I'm running a VM right now, but I started with an 1100 Tactical and would like to hang onto it as a backup gun when I travel to a match. I already talked to Jeff at C-rums and he says he won't touch the 1100 and not many will because of the amount of effort that goes into making them suitable makes the cost too high for most, so he just doesn't bother.

Does anyone know of a good smith that still works on them?

racnsoonr · Oct 23, 2014

I have one and still run it because it's more sentimental than function to me as it was my dad's. I've never had anything done to it internally...I just added the tube and lifter from Daves metal works. I recently bought a competition barrel for it. It shoots soft and is accurate but it is NOT designed for fast loads imo. If I was serious about my game, I would've ponied up and bought a benelli from accurate iron no question

MarkCO · Oct 23, 2014

Just leave it alone and shoot trap, skeet or sporting clays with it.

runawaygun762 · Oct 23, 2014

MarkCO said:
Just leave it alone and shoot trap, skeet or sporting clays with it.

Good advice I suppose, but I can do that also with the VM.

Jason Grant said:
I have one and still run it because it's more sentimental than function to me as it was my dad's. I've never had anything done to it internally...I just added the tube and lifter from Daves metal works. I recently bought a competition barrel for it. It shoots soft and is accurate but it is NOT designed for fast loads imo. If I was serious about my game, I would've ponied up and bought a benelli from accurate iron no question

I already ponied up a grand for the VM when the JM Pro wasn't available. Having a Benelli in addition to the VM is something I'm going to have to wait on until my kids' college fund is complete. Then I can dip into that for more guns. They don't need college anyway.

MarkCO · Oct 23, 2014

IMHO, the budget (or back-up gun) winner right now is the Stoeger M3000. Slap on a tube, run a few cases through it and let that $550 sit in reserve for 20 years.

Bob Sanders · Oct 23, 2014

Backup gun? Hell, my M3000 is my plate knockin, popper stompin, clay smashin, duck blastin, zombie whackin numero uno boom stick!

runawaygun762 · Oct 23, 2014

I keep reading good things about it, but I say the budget winner is the gun I already have, as it already has the 22" barrel with same choke system as the primary and 8+1 capacity. I'll add the DMW easy loader. Obviously, things change over time and if I ever get the chance to pick up a different one at a prize table or through some wheeling and dealing, then who knows? Right now, though, the budget is the key factor. That's why I'm still running my kitchen table-rigged Taccom duaload system instead of something better. The wife says make it work, I make it work.

MarkCO · Oct 23, 2014

I think if you do the math, you will find you can sell the 1100 and get into a M3000 for not much more than skipping a few trips to the fast food or coffee joint.

Matt1911 · Oct 23, 2014

If the Versa Max is as good as they say it is, you won't need a backup gun.

I wouldn't worry too much about having a backup shotgun for 3 gunnin. If yours ever does crap out during a match, I would hope that there would be 1 or 2 kind people there to loan you theirs for the remainder of the match.

hunter_dmw12 · Oct 23, 2014

MarkCO said:
I think if you do the math, you will find you can sell the 1100 and get into a M3000 for not much more than skipping a few trips to the fast food or coffee joint.

dont touch the beer fund cash

mike cyrwus · Oct 23, 2014

backup guns are what your squadmates are using.

dennishoddy · Oct 23, 2014

I have a collection of 1100's from .410 to 12 ga, some unfired from the 70's.

My trap model has shot thousands of rounds of high velocity 12 ga with nothing but an O ring change on occasion.
None have shot 3 gun.
I'll have to check out the source for jasons lifter, etc.

MarkCO · Oct 24, 2014

Dennis, add a EZ-lifter, 50% more spring force and 6 more shells to the tube (all necessities for 3Gun) and the operational window for which the 1100 was designed, and is famous for, is GONE! 1100s work in the conditions for which they were designed...but not 3Gun.

runawaygun762 · Oct 24, 2014

Matt Rigsby said:
If the Versa Max is as good as they say it is, you won't need a backup gun.

I wouldn't worry too much about having a backup shotgun for 3 gunnin. If yours ever does crap out during a match, I would hope that there would be 1 or 2 kind people there to loan you theirs for the remainder of the match.

mike cyrwus said:
backup guns are what your squadmates are using.

I would hope so on both counts, that I'll never break a gun during a match and if I do, I can borrow someone else's but I would rather not rely on those. I let three other guys use my VM during a spring 3 gun, and I know most people would, but I won't rely on that if I don't have to.

Selling the 1100 for a Stoeger seems like an option. I'll have to look more into that.

edit- Just looked at the M3000, looks like it has controls almost identical to the VM. That makes it easy.

dennishoddy · Oct 25, 2014

MarkCO said:
Dennis, add a EZ-lifter, 50% more spring force and 6 more shells to the tube (all necessities for 3Gun) and the operational window for which the 1100 was designed, and is famous for, is GONE! 1100s work in the conditions for which they were designed...but not 3Gun.

I've been a shotgun reloader since the early 80's. My current load in a stock 1100 according to the books is in the area of 1400 fps. I hammer doves, quail, and pheasant way further than anybody in the crowd.

Stout load for sure, but I don't like to lead them

I guess my main question is why do I need 50% more spring force?

Spiff · Oct 25, 2014

Because you need an 8-12 round tube, which needs a much longer spring. More coils, more force.

dennishoddy · Oct 25, 2014

Austin T said:
Because you need an 8-12 round tube, which needs a much longer spring. More coils, more force.

Ok, got it.
I was thinking he was referencing a stock tube. My fault.

Scott Hearn · Oct 27, 2014

I know nothing of the EZ Lifter but I can tell you that loading a stock 1100 on the clock sucks. Nothing fast about it.

racnsoonr · Oct 27, 2014

The lifter eliminates the need to depress the silver button and it hangs down quite a bit after installing it. I'm still weak hand loading and don't have too many problems getting my thumb hung up. I haven't messed with the port or tried to double or quad load.

runawaygun762 · Oct 27, 2014

Screw the 1100. I'm keeping it stock and I'm going to sell it. I saw a Stoeger M3000 up close and in action this weekend at Lead Farm. I'll get a Springfield XDm 5.25 for the wife, then the M3000 is my next gun purchase. Low cost and identical controls to the VM make it a no brainer.