Do You Place Your Index Finger on Trigger Guard?

zghorner

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I was just dry firing my CZ 75b that has serrations on the front of the trigger guard and curious if you guys recommend placing your weak hand index finger there when shooting? I currently do but my accuracy and follow up shots for handgun are so much worse than rifle or shotgun I cant help but feel like I'm doing something wrong.

thanks everyone.
 
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zghorner said:
I was just dry firing my CZ 75b that has serrations on the front of the trigger guard and curious if you guys recommend placing your weak hand index finger there when shooting? I currently do but my accuracy and follow up shots for handgun are so much worse than rifle or shotgun I cant help but feel like I'm doing something wrong.

thanks everyone.
Tony speaks the truth.

I used to do this until TDSA re-did my grip completely. When your finger is around the trigger guard it just gives you one more leverage point that can pull your gun to the weak side (and usually down).

My follow up shots using that style grip were always terrible. After my class and some practice to break the life-long habit, my groups are much much better. Sometimes I even get 2 Alphas :)
 
Burk Cornelius said:
Tony speaks the truth.

Sometimes I even get 2 Alphas :)
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zghorner said:
thanks everyone. i know i need a ton of practice, just dont want to be practicing bad habits.
Have you taken any classes?
It's sometimes a hard pill to swallow for someone that's been shooting awhile but it helps to have a professional critique you.
 
You can use the trigger guard wrap technique, but you need to be aware of a condition called sympathetic nerve response. The human body likes things to be symmetrical. That's why when you were a kid and tried that game where you rub your tummy and pat your head then try switching up real fast, most people got messed up at first. The potential exists for inadvertently contracting your support hand index finger when you press the trigger, which manifests itself as hits low and toward the support side. It doesn't happen with everybody or even the majority of people, but the potential does exist.

Jerry Miculek has said he uses that technique sometimes, especially when firing larger caliber autos where he wants more leverage to manage recoil. Any number of videos or pictures of him shooting will show his use of this. Eric Grauffel uses it also. I'll tell you the same thing I tell my students when I catch them doing it with the M9: Those people have fired hundreds of thousands of rounds in their lifetime. They know it's not going to happen to them. I make a deal with my trainees. Once they've reached 500,000 rounds fired, they can hold the gun however they want. At 499,999 rounds and less, they do it my way
 
David Marlow said:
You can use the trigger guard wrap technique, but you need to be aware of a condition called sympathetic nerve response. The human body likes things to be symmetrical. That's why when you were a kid and tried that game where you rub your tummy and pat your head then try switching up real fast, most people got messed up at first. The potential exists for inadvertently contracting your support hand index finger when you press the trigger, which manifests itself as hits low and toward the support side. It doesn't happen with everybody or even the majority of people, but the potential does exist.

Jerry Miculek has said he uses that technique sometimes, especially when firing larger caliber autos where he wants more leverage to manage recoil. Any number of videos or pictures of him shooting will show his use of this. Eric Grauffel uses it also. I'll tell you the same thing I tell my students when I catch them doing it with the M9: Those people have fired hundreds of thousands of rounds in their lifetime. They know it's not going to happen to them. I make a deal with my trainees. Once they've reached 500,000 rounds fired, they can hold the gun however they want. At 49,999 rounds and less, they do it my way
What do they do between 50k and 500k?
 
No! I never thought it felt right and recoil management sucked. After taking a 1on1 class with a USPSA GM I would definatly recommend against it. Also as mentioned that can be very good spent $$!! A good GM that's knows how to teach can save you hundreds + in ammo and seconds off you stage times. Best $300 I have spent on my shooting game!!
 
Wall said:
Have you taken any classes?
It's sometimes a hard pill to swallow for someone that's been shooting awhile but it helps to have a professional critique you.
No, I've never taken any classes or had any training. I'm not opposed at all to it.

this video is about it haha

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChSazF41q-s
 
Some people can pull it off. I can't, I have that thing that Marlow was talking about after he googled it on the the interweb

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