fiundagner
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I?m glad to see that the 5 cent / bullet tax (28$ in taxes on a brick of 22 that only cost 20$!!!) was dropped, but I am having so many issues with the gun tax it is almost aneurism level. Also, the US supreme court has ruled that imposing taxes is a valid form of market control (Obama care). They don?t have to overturn the second amendment if they can simply tax firearms and related sales out of existence
A gun is a tool, no more, no less. Do you impose a tax on all knives because some are used (a lot more than guns I can guarantee) in violent crimes? On tools like hammers and screwdrivers? On materials like pipes and 2x4?s? The source of the ?incredible violence? is people, not inanimate objects. And if it is an animate object that?s causing the problem, it is time to go see Mr. Shrinkman and get fitted for a nice new jacket. Or stop watching Bruce Campbell movies with anchovies pizza and ice cream right before bed.
Assume it passed, and assume it collects all the expect revenue. According to the cities own figures it would only pay for treatment for 10.15 ?victims of gun violence? while imposing an undue burden on 24000 people; only 195 (29% of the victims of gun violence) of which are actually going to be ?responsible? according to the cities own logic. What happened to the greatest good for the greatest number of people? Also, what about the other 71% of guns that were bought illegally? Are the holders going to be charged with tax evasion if the city can?t get anything else to stick? You laugh, but that?s how they finally got Capone. Also, is this tax to be assessed on private party transfers that don?t go through FFL?s? Are those even legal in Chicago? Can they start charging people with tax evasion because they suspect a suspect didn?t pay taxes on a possible sale? The burden of proof is much lower in civil cases that criminal cases. The prosecution does not have to prove you did something, you have to prove that you didn?t do something.
Does anyone remember how well prohibition worked? Or where the term ?cigarette boat? actually comes from? This will not prevent gun violence, it will simply make the black market in firearms larger and more expansive, increasing the problem. There is nothing about the problem that is undeclared. Every week, at least, we hear another politician yelling about the ?disaster? and demanding more control over citizens who try to legally purchase guns. Also, apparently I?m shopping in the wrong places for my handgun needs. I could make a viable business plan out of shopping in his neighborhood and just turning them all in at the various gun buybacks. Didn?t an NRA children?s camp do something like that earlier this year?
I?m glad to see that the 5 cent / bullet tax (28$ in taxes on a brick of 22 that only cost 20$!!!) was dropped, but I am having so many issues with the gun tax it is almost aneurism level. Also, the US supreme court has ruled that imposing taxes is a valid form of market control (Obama care). They don?t have to overturn the second amendment if they can simply tax firearms and related sales out of existence
A gun is a tool, no more, no less. Do you impose a tax on all knives because some are used (a lot more than guns I can guarantee) in violent crimes? On tools like hammers and screwdrivers? On materials like pipes and 2x4?s? The source of the ?incredible violence? is people, not inanimate objects. And if it is an animate object that?s causing the problem, it is time to go see Mr. Shrinkman and get fitted for a nice new jacket. Or stop watching Bruce Campbell movies with anchovies pizza and ice cream right before bed.
Assume it passed, and assume it collects all the expect revenue. According to the cities own figures it would only pay for treatment for 10.15 ?victims of gun violence? while imposing an undue burden on 24000 people; only 195 (29% of the victims of gun violence) of which are actually going to be ?responsible? according to the cities own logic. What happened to the greatest good for the greatest number of people? Also, what about the other 71% of guns that were bought illegally? Are the holders going to be charged with tax evasion if the city can?t get anything else to stick? You laugh, but that?s how they finally got Capone. Also, is this tax to be assessed on private party transfers that don?t go through FFL?s? Are those even legal in Chicago? Can they start charging people with tax evasion because they suspect a suspect didn?t pay taxes on a possible sale? The burden of proof is much lower in civil cases that criminal cases. The prosecution does not have to prove you did something, you have to prove that you didn?t do something.
Does anyone remember how well prohibition worked? Or where the term ?cigarette boat? actually comes from? This will not prevent gun violence, it will simply make the black market in firearms larger and more expansive, increasing the problem. There is nothing about the problem that is undeclared. Every week, at least, we hear another politician yelling about the ?disaster? and demanding more control over citizens who try to legally purchase guns. Also, apparently I?m shopping in the wrong places for my handgun needs. I could make a viable business plan out of shopping in his neighborhood and just turning them all in at the various gun buybacks. Didn?t an NRA children?s camp do something like that earlier this year?
