Need educated opinions.

dennishoddy · Jul 17, 2012

My fishing/hunting buddy has finally decided to get into pistol competitions. He is looking for his first competition style pistol.
He has a co-worker with an FFL that can pick up one of the new XD(M) 5.25 Competition Series for him.
He wondered how it compared with my pistol, the M&P Pro 5" in .40.
I'll have to admit, I haven't followed the XD line of pistols at all, so I told him I'd put it on the board, and let the experts have a go at it.

DurningDefenseCustomsLLC · Jul 17, 2012

He will like the M&P a lot more, I have a lot of officers that are customers and they love there M&P after switching from Glock and Springfield.

Jeff T. · Jul 17, 2012

I have never shot an M&P, but I love my XDM 5.25 .40.
It feels right in my hand.
If we can meet at a match or range, he can shoot mine to see if he likes it.

CBR · Jul 17, 2012

Pleased with my xdm40 525. For what it's worth from a newb. Good luck finding an mp40 pro.

Chambers · Jul 17, 2012

With only a few exceptions, listening to cops about shooting is like taking advice from a ham sandwich.

The XDM 5.25 competition is a sweet thing. If I had to choose an out of the box pistol for production division it would be the one. Trigger and sights are good to go out of the box, grip is plenty grippy, etc. Only thing I really don't like about them is the grip safety. It's as if Springfield bought the services of one of the best pistol shooters ever and listened to him.

That said, he'd be well served by any of those.

jtischauser · Jul 17, 2012

MP is my choice. XDM's bore axis is really high. Sights flip like crazy. Triggers better in a stock XDM. Sights on XDM are not perfect. Front is too wide, rear isn't wide enough.

Matt1911 · Jul 17, 2012

The xdm is a good gun but its overpriced and way too top heavy which means more felt recoil due to excessive muzzle flip so follow up shots (double taps) are harder to accomplish.

The m&p pro is the better package I believe. It has a lower bore axis, lower price, and a better stock trigger.

I went with the m&p pro after shooting both. Both triggers are a elephant dung ton better than a glock, but I would take a glock over the xdm.

aeropb · Jul 17, 2012

I'd stay away from the XD/XDM's because its easier to get parts for M&P/Glock. Among other things. But they do work

Chambers · Jul 17, 2012

Jesse Tischauser said:
MP is my choice. XDM's bore axis is really high. Sights flip like crazy. Triggers better in a stock XDM. Sights on XDM are not perfect. Front is too wide, rear isn't wide enough.

Your 2011 has a "high bore axis."

jtischauser · Jul 17, 2012

Chambers said:
Your 2011 has a "high bore axis."

Not that high plus I can Get my hands higher, and it outweighs the XDM considerably. So muzzle flip is negligible.

KurtM · Jul 17, 2012

I am begining to think this whole thread has a "high bore index"....ahhh..... ooops ....axis!

charger arms · Jul 17, 2012

I have sold and shot both in the 9mm model. I liked both but I felt like the M&P was easier to shoot and hit with. But I suck so you can take that with a grain of salt. I have been thinking about getting one of the M&P Pro's for myself. If it was my money, I would buy the M&P first. It is made here in the USA. Also, the Smith has an ambi slide stop.

Last I checked, there were some available. but they come in small quantites.

Also, the M&P 9 Pro is sold to one of my customers had the fiber optic break after a couple easy range sessions. He was using it mostly for Bianchi style matches and wasn't abusing the pistol. I don't know if any one else is experiancing this, but he changed out sights the f.o.break.

Josh Beauchamp · Jul 17, 2012

IMO I would say the MP over the XD. I have handled and shot both of them. To me the MP had a solid feel and a good weight in the hand. The XD felt loose and almost seemed to have a slide to frame rattle. Furthermore, stated above the MP is Made in America.

drmitchgibson · Jul 17, 2012

If he goes with the M&P he needs to have a spare striker on hand.

Jefpainthorse · Jul 17, 2012

folks who like xd's like em. but I have noted a lot have gone to SW for many of the reasons noted above.

My son was a XD guy for a long time... and traded into a Glock 27 when his job changed to plain clothes. He says he wondered why he did not do it sooner... and he did not go M&P simply because it's not on his "approved list" as of yet.

dennishoddy · Jul 17, 2012

Mitch Gibson said:
If he goes with the M&P he needs to have a spare striker on hand.

Why?
I've got a couple thousand through mine now, with no problem but it getting too dirty and not ejecting. Cleaned it and problem cleared.

Are there reports out there?

drmitchgibson · Jul 17, 2012

They don't hold up to dry fire. 1-2K dry trigger pulls and the tip breaks off.

TroyF · Jul 17, 2012

Chambers said:
With only a few exceptions, listening to cops about shooting is like taking advice from a ham sandwich.

The XDM 5.25 competition is a sweet thing. If I had to choose an out of the box pistol for production division it would be the one. Trigger and sights are good to go out of the box, grip is plenty grippy, etc. Only thing I really don't like about them is the grip safety. It's as if Springfield bought the services of one of the best pistol shooters ever and listened to him.

That said, he'd be well served by any of those.

DOH! True. Sad but true.....

Jefpainthorse · Jul 17, 2012

I listen and hang on every word Troy F says about ham sammiches and food in general.

(he can shoot too)

Greentw · Jul 17, 2012

This 5.25" XD(M) competition is the bi-tone and I can get it new for around $550 in the .40 cal that dennis is talking about, is this a good buy? Or hold out for a M&P or other pistol?