Which gun is a better overall competition gun?

Horty · Jun 10, 2012

Which gun would you all rate as the better overall competition gun?

Smith & Wesson Full Size M&P 9mm

or

Sig Sauer P226 40 S&W

I have been shooting USPSA and Steel Challenge and would like to get into 3 gun at some point?

Spiff · Jun 10, 2012

For competition, the M&P!

dennishoddy · Jun 10, 2012

M&P here as well.

Matt1911 · Jun 10, 2012

M&P fo sho.

The Antichrome · Jun 10, 2012

No contest. M&P.

poopgiggle · Jun 10, 2012

M&Ps and SIGs are a waste of money. A Hi-Point is just as good and only costs $80 on Craigslist!

Ksmirk · Jun 10, 2012

I shoot a Glock but of the 2 I'd pick the M&P! never was a fan of the Sig pistols, nothing wrong with them just never tickled me the right way. Later,

Kirk

benjamin-benjamin · Jun 10, 2012

m&p no question

brandt9913 · Jun 10, 2012

The reason no one likes the Sig is the tang height. The height of the tang on the M&P will keep your strong hand higher and closer to the slide. The M&P will have much less perceived recoil because of this.

Spiff · Jun 10, 2012

The other reason no one likes the sig is the double action first round. You could start cocked with safety on for Limited in USPSA, but in production where it would be more competitive it has to start decocked.

Wall · Jun 10, 2012

Spiff said:
The other reason no one likes the sig is the double action first round. You could start cocked with safety on for Limited in USPSA, but in production where it would be more competitive it has to start decocked.

Not many competition add-ons like ext. base pads etc. for sigs to run in limited.

Besides those 226's are way too heavy

Feegee · Jun 10, 2012

I am a fan of the glock 24!! Try one and you will never look back!!!

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brandt9913 · Jun 10, 2012

Spiff said:
The other reason no one likes the sig is the double action first round. You could start cocked with safety on for Limited in USPSA, but in production where it would be more competitive it has to start decocked.

Have you looked at the recent results in production At double tap? CZ Shadows have to start in double action and Matt Mink and many others seem to have no problem with the first shot in double action.

First shot for a CZ is a long 3 lb trigger pull. Then it's short 1.5 lb with a good trigger pull (with a good trigger job). I don't think the double action start has anything to do with the reason people don't like shooting Sigs.

Scott Hearn · Jun 11, 2012

There was a thread on Enos about how many of the top 10 or 20 in Nationals were shooting DA first shot guns. IIRC there was a Beretta or two in the list also.

O/P you could almost buy two used M&P 9's for that Sig unless you get a used Sig and then it's about 1.5 M&P 9's. And they'd both better for your intended use.

jtischauser · Jun 11, 2012

I have never seem a sig at a match other than Max Michel but his are special.

If your choosing from the two you already have in the safe go M&P. If your thinking about purchasing your next competition gun get the long slide M&P 9L.

shootingbuff · Jun 11, 2012

JT has 2/3rds of this correct. If purchasing a firearm a Glock 34/35 leaning towards 35. Of course it actually boils down to what you shoot better and can afford.

Best in your quest and let us know what you decided on.

Matt1911 · Jun 11, 2012

I haven't seen any 9L's floating around so I went with a 9pro. The Glock 34-35's are great choices too, but I can't stand the hump on the back of the grip.

jtischauser · Jun 11, 2012

Matt Rigsby said:
I haven't seen any 9L's floating around so I went with a 9pro. The Glock 34-35's are great choices too, but I can't stand the hump on the back of the grip.

Yeah the 9L is more rare. Heck they may have quit making it for all I know. It is a bit cheaper but doesn't have the half ass better sights and trigger. Which is a good thing because you replace both items in a 9 Pro anyway.

aeropb · Jun 11, 2012

brandt9913 said:
Have you looked at the recent results in production At double tap? CZ Shadows have to start in double action and Matt Mink and many others seem to have no problem with the first shot in double action.

First shot for a CZ is a long 3 lb trigger pull. Then it's short 1.5 lb with a good trigger pull (with a good trigger job). I don't think the double action start has anything to do with the reason people don't like shooting Sigs.

Then you watch guys like us try it and notice that their first shot doesn't even score

RyanReed · Jun 11, 2012

Spiff said:
The other reason no one likes the sig is the double action first round. You could start cocked with safety on for Limited in USPSA, but in production where it would be more competitive it has to start decocked.

Easy fix. Just cook one off on the draw. Just make sure it hits 3 meters from your feet.