New Tisas…

[Marshal Holland]

I picked up a Tisas Duty Manta Ray. I hope it's decent. I'm just not used to the bobtail grip. I guess I'm just old school.

 

[Bob Lee]

I picked up a Tisas Duty Manta Ray. I hope it's decent. I'm just not used to the bobtail grip. I guess I'm just old school.

Hope it works out well for you! I have a Tank Commander and I'm very pleased with it.

 

[Marshal Holland]

I was really looking for a Tank Commander. No one had one, but a store had the GI basic model and for a few more dollars, had the Duty Manta Ray. I wasn't crazy about the bobtail, but the upgraded sights, grip safety, and ambi safety kinda sold me!

 

[ratwhacker]

Bobtails have a little more muzzle flip, in my experience, but it's not enough to disqualify one from purchase. I have two Stingrays, they're my first bobtails, and are alloy-framed, too boot, so they have a little more recoil, but again, it's not enough to bother me. They actually carry REALLY well, and the bobtail doesn't "print" as badly as a square butt gun does.
The more you shoot it, the more you'll like it. IIRC, the Manta Ray is all-steel and full-sized, so it shouldn't be bad at all. In fact, it might become your favorite.

 

[Marshal Holland]

Thanks, it's been to wet and muddy to get out and shoot

 

[ratwhacker]

BTW, Tisas sells some fully-checkered walnut grips for bobtails, and they are REALLY comfortable. Since taking that picture, I've replaced the grips on both of those pistols with the walnut grips. They are only $25 a set, besides! I heartily recommend them.

 

[Marshal Holland]

Thanks, I'll probably go that route

 

[ratwhacker]

They fit really tight, you might have to tap them down the first time installing them. That's okay, otherwise, they'd be a sloppy fit and wallow around. No one needs that. You'll like them, I'm sure.

 

[Marshal Holland]

I guess I should at least add a picture.

 

[ratwhacker]

************ That's a Kimber, you might have used an incorrect photo.

 

[Bob Lee]

They fit really tight, you might have to tap them down the first time installing them. That's okay, otherwise, they'd be a sloppy fit and wallow around. No one needs that. You'll like them, I'm sure.

I put the ones on that came with my Tank Commander. I liked them fine, but changed them for Herrett full checkered grips. My absolute favorite 1911 grips. They really fit my hand better than any other kind I've tried. They are grippy for lack of a better description. I may be wrong, but I think Colt 1911's came with these grips. All my Colt 1911's wear full checkered walnut grips with the Colt medalion in them. What can I say, I'm old school, and I'm proud of that.

 

[Marshal Holland]

************ That's a Kimber, you might have used an incorrect photo.

You are right, I tapped the wrong photo, I'll try to correct that later.

 

[ratwhacker]

Here are four of my Tisas, the two upper pistols are those Stingrays with the fully-checkered walnut grips installed now. The other two pistols, are a D-10 10mm and the Tank Commander, pretty much stock.

 

[Marshal Holland]

Okay correcting the photo, this is my Tisas, also correcting the model. The man said it was a Manta Ray, it's in fact a Duty.

 

[Marshal Holland]

 

[ratwhacker]

It IS a Manta Ray, they only come in the Duty format. That's okay, they're still excellent pistols. You'll like it.

 

[Newtire]

It IS a Manta Ray, they only come in the Duty format. That's okay, they're still excellent pistols. You'll like it.

Being relatively new to 1911's (not counting the old rattle trap ones we shot at targets and carried on Weapons Security Watch in the USN) I wonder what the advantage is, as far as the accuracy or shooting reliability goes, of a "bobtail" vs a non-botail 1911? Is it mainly to keep it from snagging on your clothing?

 

[ratwhacker]

Being relatively new to 1911's (not counting the old rattle trap ones we shot at targets and carried on Weapons Security Watch in the USN) I wonder what the advantage is, as far as the accuracy or shooting reliability goes, of a "bobtail" vs a non-botail 1911? Is it mainly to keep it from snagging on your clothing?

Pretty much nailed it, it "prints" less when carrying, hasn't really got any sharp edges to poke fatty regions, and it feels pretty good in the hands. Then again, I strongly prefer arched mainspring housings for the same reasons.. There's no difference in reliability, because its' still the same pistol, more or less, I DO find it a little harder to shoot really well, for me, but I can shoot them "more than well enough". I think they're a little slower on follow-up shots, but not enough to matter, like I posted earlier. If I really concentrate, I can shoot them equally well, it just takes more concentration.

 

[Bob Lee]

Pretty much nailed it, it "prints" less when carrying, hasn't really got any sharp edges to poke fatty regions, and it feels pretty good in the hands. Then again, I strongly prefer arched mainspring housings for the same reasons.. There's no difference in reliability, because its' still the same pistol, more or less, I DO find it a little harder to shoot really well, for me, but I can shoot them "more than well enough". I think they're a little slower on follow-up shots, but not enough to matter, like I posted earlier. If I really concentrate, I can shoot them equally well, it just takes more concentration.

I'm glad I'm not the only one that uses arched m/s housings. Short trigger for me too. Just works out well for me