9mm 1911 ejects cases straight back to shooter's head.....not sure how best to contour ejector?

[learning]

Hi, i have a 9mm 1911 that shoots very nicely and reliably....however, the cases are ejecting high and almost directly back, consistently. The cases probably land in my estimation approximately 5 feet behind the shooter. it has a 9mm ejector which is pinned and secure.

I was wondering if someone might guide me as to how best to alter the case ejection trajectory.

thank you

 

[Mike Galway]

Is it clearing your head ? If so , I wish I could get mine to do it . Patrick Sweeney's book on gunsmithing the 1911 may be helpful . I'm always reluctant to make changes to a reliable accurate firearm . Best of luck .

 

[learning]

For the most part the cases do clear my head...... but its a bit too close for comfort.

 

[switchback]

Can you post a good close pic of ejector? Is it extremely long? Likely so, at least there is plenty to work with. Is there angle to the tip of extractor or relatively square? Is the extractor properly set up and tuned?

Lots of questions I realize but I don't want to help you mess your 1911 up. Perhaps even the questions will help you think thru the ejection. Hint- profile has a lot to do with ejection.

 

[learning]

yes, thank you....it is the longer type of ejector....i'll try to get a photo.

 

[switchback]

You're welcome.

And welcome to the forum

 

[learning]

Here are 2 photos that i hope will show the ejector. i was reading a little section from Brazos that advocated contouring the ejector face such that the case first contacts toward the top of the ejector...which should cause the case to eject low.....does that sound correct?

 

[seagiant]

Hi,
Put your question here and you will get some help.

I know what I would do but...

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[Babboonbobo]

I personally would not mess with it unless it actually hit me, but that's me. I am curious as to what changes you end up making and what affect it has on brass trajectory. If you do adjust it can you post "after" pics along with the results?
Please
And a big hardy welcome from nw Ohio

 

[learning]

thank you.
..will try to update accordingly
not sure how to move the post?

 

[seagiant]

Brazos Custom

Go to magazine articles, then "Ejection Perfection"!

 

[learning]

thank you

 

[Mike A1]

Or take a look here at home

Ejector Tuning

I have a DW PM9 that I bought new and it now has about 1800 rounds downrange. I love the gun and it shoots fine, but it sprays empty cases everywhere. They bounce off my arm or chest or land up to 8 ft. away. They go anywhere from 1 o'clock to 5. It's been doing this ever since I got it. I...

www.1911fanatics.com

 

[learning]

thank you for the link...will review it just now

really appreciate everyone's help...great forum

 

[switchback]

A good profile for 9mm is relatively square on the nose , 90* to top of ejector length. If that makes sense. And then very little angle, or bevel to adjust angle of ejected brass. But everyone has a different preference. Personally I've not had much success with the large angle at the nose profile. Again ymmv. Lots of articles on the web. Wilson combat has a good one, but they prefer the large angle on nose. Best of luck

Your pics came out good. And it seems as if there is plenty left for you to try a different profile. Just proceed slowly, a couple swipes with the file will make big changes. Hopefully the ejector is pinned in place? If so a 1/16" punch will remove ejector

Also when ejector is installed insert a mag with dummy round and make certain top of round is not contacting bottom of ejector as it protrudes into mag opening. If there is contact, file till none. Contact there will never allow consistent ejection. And depending on amount of contact, can bend or break ejector

 

[learning]

thank you....that helps a lot

 

[seagiant]

Hi
Yes I would agree, flat or 90 degrees from the top would be better.

With that slope on your ejector your sort of asking for it, so to speak.

The other thing to check is that your extractor is also tuned correctly and has proper tension.

It must hold and control the case, upon extraction and hold the case for the ejector to hit and send it on it's way.

I am not crazy about giving advice, on the Internet for a couple of reasons.

The other thing to look at is the ejector to slide relationship as far as fit from the back, is the ejector big enough to fill the space where the cut out is in the slide for it?

The closer the fit the more of the nose of the ejector there is to hit the brass on ejection, hope that makes sense?

 

[learning]

yes, thank you, i understand that it's tough to give advice to strangers but i really appreciate the help.
the back of the extractor looks perfectly contoured at the rear of the slide.
i purchased the 2 volume Kuhnhausen manual and should get it this week and will review the relevant sections as well.

 

[seagiant]

Hi
This is a pic of a Commander build.

Note the ejector, to slide cut out.

There is no gaps and the ejector fills the ejector slide cut completely.

This gives max ejector area (nose), to hit the empty case upon extraction.

 

[learning]

seagiant, that looks gorgeous.....perfect